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    I'm not sure if all of these forum entries are submitted to the correct subforum (maybe if I can gain more technical answers by submission to dedicated subforums of this site, I'll resubmit) but previous to this one in question, I mentioned in passing without much elaboration, that I seek stimulation of my suggestive Se via the secondarily sensing ESI/LSI; for finding myself agitated and impatient with Se dominants that I know. Is this merely a matter of slower development as a trade-off, while being able to bypass being enraged in the process, or is there simply no slower alternative to just interacting with dominants of functions for which, development is desired? I know that people can do activities singularly (in my case exercise, sport, observation of mobile details, ???) that promote use of a function, without necessarily a strong user of the function present - but having a reference by which to catalogue responses (perhaps pathologically, since Se is intrinsically an improvisational and responsive function, that is obviously not used in a studied, planned or formulaic basis to be catalogued) of a proficient Se user to various situations, I could not do with myself as as a mere reference.

    Even if you don't have a conclusive answer to the first question, ideas about how I could train use of Se in activities aside from physical exercise or sport would be appreciated. (I do both already - not that I'm opposed to those as methods ).

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    I suppose, a person is not in full acceptance of the aid by only seeing glimpses each other in a very sorry state – out of reach. I kind of like model G in this respect. It talks about energy - not a natural skill or definite mastery and a person is interested in training his/her suggestive mainly via role which corresponds well with demonstrative/creative positions.
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    I doubt that one could alter any aspect of type structure once the brain has fully matured unless there's significant brain injury; otherwise, ego would be unstable. One can create higher-level processes (through experience and practice) that compensate for shortcomings of fundamental data handling - like software that runs on an operating system to simulate the functioning of another operating system, and I emphasize "simulate". One can improve how one deals with certain senarios but one's data control system will likely remain untouched......

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    You need to check out what the Jungians say about this:

    Development of suggestive ("inferior function") is possible, but it belongs to the second half of life, when you already have been going full stream ahead with the base function for decades. Then there seems to be a natural shift of focus towards the unconscious side.

    You need to develop it alone. If you have a dual present they will just take over that information.


    From "Lectures on Jung's typology"

    From "The problem of the Puer Aethernus"
    A true sense-perception certainly exists, but it always looks as though objects were not so much forcing their way into the subject in their own right as that the subject were seeing things quite differently, or saw quite other things than the rest of mankind. As a matter of fact, the subject perceives the same things as everybody else, only, he never stops at the purely objective effect, but concerns himself with the subjective perception released by the objective stimulus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tallmo View Post
    You need to check out what the Jungians say about this:

    Development of suggestive ("inferior function") is possible, but it belongs to the second half of life, when you already have been going full stream ahead with the base function for decades. Then there seems to be a natural shift of focus towards the unconscious side.

    You need to develop it alone. If you have a dual present they will just take over that information.


    From "Lectures on Jung's typology"

    From "The problem of the Puer Aethernus"
    I concur: I'm 53 and I can say for sure that my Si development is just starting, and consisting mostly of accidental discoveries which happen at the right moment, like I described in this thread:

    https://www.the16types.info/vbulleti...perts-out-here
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    Quote Originally Posted by consentingadult View Post
    I concur: I'm 53
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    Functions should better develop when you accept a human with a compementing function deeper.
    Better IR -> easier to have better feelings -> more introjection of other personality and so better study.
    Types examples: video bloggers, actors

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