Type me based on this neat questionnaire

[Goth detective]

How are you one on one e.g. in a romantic relationship?

More stoic, less animated, less self assured. I much prefer a group setting to a one on one conversation as there is so much more energy to draw from. I have an inherent fascination with audiences and crowds, they give me vitality. If i'm speaking in front of people, I feel an electricity and connection that is absent otherwise. Sometimes I take the bus just to be in a group of people. With one on one, it is difficult for me to keep energy flowing in the same way and my mind runs at a slower pace.

[grumpyvic81]

More stoic, less animated, less self assured. I much prefer a group setting to a one on one conversation as there is so much more energy to draw from. I have an inherent fascination with audiences and crowds, they give me vitality. If i'm speaking in front of people, I feel an electricity and connection that is absent otherwise. Sometimes I take the bus just to be in a group of people. With one on one, it is difficult for me to keep energy flowing in the same way and my mind runs at a slower pace.

Hmm in the romantic relationship do you need the other person to help establish the emotional connection then?

[Goth detective]

Hmm in the romantic relationship do you need the other person to help establish the emotional connection then?

Depends on what part of the process you mean by that. I am definitely very hesitant and neurotic about revealing my interest to somebody, it takes a lot out of me to pursue someone. I'm not fully comfortable in that role, however once there is a clear unambiguous sign of mutual interest, my heart spills out very dramatically and intensely. I'm just very doubtful in the beginning and I question my own feelings as much as the other party's feelings to the point that I do nothing.

[Adam Strange]

Depends on what part of the process you mean by that. I am definitely very hesitant and neurotic about revealing my interest to somebody, it takes a lot out of me to pursue someone. I'm not fully comfortable in that role, however once there is a clear unambiguous sign of mutual interest, my heart spills out very dramatically and intensely. I'm just very doubtful in the beginning and I question my own feelings as much as the other party's feelings to the point that I do nothing.

This is a very good description of a Victim’s approach to intimacy.

Again, when I was age 25, I was entirely focused on building my career skills and was completely ignoring romantic connections. Out of the blue, an LSI that I worked with called me one Friday and said she had a six-pack of beer and I should meet her in the park at sunset. I thought, “I don’t know who the hell this person is, but she has beer.” So I met her in the park, we drank beer, she showed me her tits, then she looked over my shoulder and said “Hell, that’s my boyfriend” and buttoned up, jumped up, and ran to intercept him and off they went.
I thought, “That was pretty crazy, and she probably is, too, but the beer was good.”
A week later she knocked on my apartment door. I let her in, but I still didn’t know who she was (beyond her name) and we talked for an hour before she had to leave. Her GF was waiting in the car all that time. I have come to realize that talking is foreplay to LSI’s.
She continued to contact me and I continued to be doubtful and cautious, even after we became intimate. I mean, the last thing I need is to be involved with some person who might be crazy or irresponsible. I have plenty of that myself. After about three months, I discovered that I was in love.

She was always sure of her interest (typical of Aggressors) and I never stopped doubting (typical of Victims), even after I was fully locked into her and became, essentially, faithful.

[grumpyvic81]

This is a very good description of a Victim’s approach to intimacy.

Again, when I was age 25, I was entirely focused on building my career skills and was completely ignoring romantic connections. Out of the blue, an LSI that I worked with called me one Friday and said she had a six-pack of beer and I should meet her in the park at sunset. I thought, “I don’t know who the hell this person is, but she has beer.” So I met her in the park, we drank beer, she showed me her tits, then she looked over my shoulder and said “Hell, that’s my boyfriend” and buttoned up, jumped up, and ran to intercept him and off they went.
I thought, “That was pretty crazy, and she probably is, too, but the beer was good.”
A week later she knocked on my apartment door. I let her in, but I still didn’t know who she was (beyond her name) and we talked for an hour before she had to leave. Her GF was waiting in the car all that time. I have come to realize that talking is foreplay to LSI’s.
She continued to contact me and I continued to be doubtful and cautious, even after we became intimate. I mean, the last thing I need is to be involved with some person who might be crazy or irresponsible. I have plenty of that myself. After about three months, I discovered that I was in love.

She was always sure of her interest (typical of Aggressors) and I never stopped doubting (typical of Victims), even after I was fully locked into her and became, essentially, faithful.

Ha, lol. I never understood those people for whom talking is foreplay.

PS: I think you are LIE just fine. These pics of you put together...yeah you are geeky enough for one

[Adam Strange]

Ha, lol. I never understood those people for whom talking is foreplay.

PS: I think you are LIE just fine. These pics of you put together...yeah you are geeky enough for one

Well, that first LSI didn’t need much talking, but the second LSI liked to talk before sex.

For example, the first LSI, when I let her into my apartment and offered her a seat on the couch and told her I could get her a bottle of Coke or beer, told me that if I brought her a beer, she’d give me a blowjob. That was a bit quick for me, so I brought her a Coke.

Really, creative Ni is watching out for crazies. Watching far down the line. When you are a Victim, you want to be very, very sure that you aren’t trapped by the wrong Aggressor.


As I’ve gotten older, I’ve lost my fear of being trapped, but I’ve kept my concerns about committing to an unsuitable female. Sex is fine, no problem, but commitment is serious business.
Sex with LSI’s is just the best. It’s at least 10x better with them than with any other type ( ESI’s possibly excepted). But great sex is only part of what I want in a life companion.

[Goth detective]

This is a very good description of a Victim’s approach to intimacy.

Again, when I was age 25, I was entirely focused on building my career skills and was completely ignoring romantic connections. Out of the blue, an LSI that I worked with called me one Friday and said she had a six-pack of beer and I should meet her in the park at sunset. I thought, “I don’t know who the hell this person is, but she has beer.” So I met her in the park, we drank beer, she showed me her tits, then she looked over my shoulder and said “Hell, that’s my boyfriend” and buttoned up, jumped up, and ran to intercept him and off they went.
I thought, “That was pretty crazy, and she probably is, too, but the beer was good.”
A week later she knocked on my apartment door. I let her in, but I still didn’t know who she was (beyond her name) and we talked for an hour before she had to leave. Her GF was waiting in the car all that time. I have come to realize that talking is foreplay to LSI’s.
She continued to contact me and I continued to be doubtful and cautious, even after we became intimate. I mean, the last thing I need is to be involved with some person who might be crazy or irresponsible. I have plenty of that myself. After about three months, I discovered that I was in love.

She was always sure of her interest (typical of Aggressors) and I never stopped doubting (typical of Victims), even after I was fully locked into her and became, essentially, faithful.

Lol yes that sounds very aggressor, although seems odd for an LSI to be that impulsive, at least in what you describe.

[grumpyvic81]

Depends on what part of the process you mean by that. I am definitely very hesitant and neurotic about revealing my interest to somebody, it takes a lot out of me to pursue someone. I'm not fully comfortable in that role, however once there is a clear unambiguous sign of mutual interest, my heart spills out very dramatically and intensely. I'm just very doubtful in the beginning and I question my own feelings as much as the other party's feelings to the point that I do nothing.

I see. What kind of interest do you need to be shown, physical mainly, not emotional, or that too?

Maybe this is a strange question but what do you question about your feelings? Whether they are rational, or?

[Goth detective]

I see. What kind of interest do you need to be shown, physical mainly, not emotional, or that too?

Maybe this is a strange question but what do you question about your feelings? Whether they are rational, or?

I need both physical and emotional. Physical grounds me from my thoughts very strongly and leaves things very unambiguous. I like people to be straightforward with me, whether emotional and verbal or physically.
I question whether I feel something for someone, I question whether the other person will stay interested. I'm worried about if I have the right to pursue them, or if I should keep out of their business. It feels like it never stops, though it gets easier if the other party is clear about it. The more I know I feel for someone, the harder it is to approach them or flirt (outside of a relationship).

[Adam Strange]

I need both physical and emotional. Physical grounds me from my thoughts very strongly and leaves things very unambiguous. I like people to be straightforward with me, whether emotional and verbal or physically.
I question whether I feel something for someone, I question whether the other person will stay interested. I'm worried about if I have the right to pursue them, or if I should keep out of their business. It feels like it never stops, though it gets easier if the other party is clear about it. The more I know I feel for someone, the harder it is to approach them or flirt (outside of a relationship).

All this is the same for me.

Holy shit, man. "I'm worried about if I have the right to pursue them, or if I should keep out of their business." is something that I've never told anyone, but is something that I think about every day.

I'm in limerance with an ESI woman in her late-twenties. I like her. She's fucking perfect, but I can't say anything or make a move because of the above. What right do I have to intrude in her life?

[grumpyvic81]

I need both physical and emotional. Physical grounds me from my thoughts very strongly and leaves things very unambiguous. I like people to be straightforward with me, whether emotional and verbal or physically.
I question whether I feel something for someone, I question whether the other person will stay interested. I'm worried about if I have the right to pursue them, or if I should keep out of their business. It feels like it never stops, though it gets easier if the other party is clear about it. The more I know I feel for someone, the harder it is to approach them or flirt (outside of a relationship).

I see. As a beta ST aggressor, I'm sure of my physical interest, but not my emotional interest at all. I'm easily able to initiate yeah but emotionally it's hard just like for you, the more I feel the harder for me to emotionally initiate.... So I only initiate physically in those cases, and I only do superficial "emotional" initiating if my interest emotionally is still light enough. Even then only bc I get impatient with waiting for the other person, lol. And it's still focused on action more, i.e. asking them out, etc... When it was a case where I felt too much I really shut down emotionally and just talked in very "logical terms" when initiating. I was only sure of what actions I wanted to take and spoke of that/acted based on that but I was not sure of the rest, I'd have needed an emotional signal from the other person before I could do anything in that area. Anyway that's me, I don't know how other beta STs are with the emotional side....but I can't imagine LSIs are any better at this lol, I especially don't imagine LSI-Ti that way. I imagine SLE-Se is the most decent with this of all beta STs

Lol yes that sounds very aggressor, although seems odd for an LSI to be that impulsive, at least in what you describe.

LSI-Ti definitely isn't impulsive. They have too many Ne PoLR concerns for that lol.

[Goth detective]

I see. As a beta ST aggressor, I'm sure of my physical interest, but not my emotional interest at all. I'm easily able to initiate yeah but emotionally it's hard just like for you, the more I feel the harder for me to emotionally initiate.... So I only initiate physically in those cases, and I only do superficial "emotional" initiating if my interest emotionally is still light enough. Even then only bc I get impatient with waiting for the other person, lol. And it's still focused on action more, i.e. asking them out, etc... When it was a case where I felt too much I really shut down emotionally and just talked in very "logical terms" when initiating. I was only sure of what actions I wanted to take and spoke of that/acted based on that but I was not sure of the rest, I'd have needed an emotional signal from the other person before I could do anything in that area. Anyway that's me, I don't know how other beta STs are with the emotional side....but I can't imagine LSIs are any better at this lol, I especially don't imagine LSI-Ti that way. I imagine SLE-Se is the most decent with this of all beta STs

No I definitely do not think it's easy for LSIs to initiate emotionally. To provide the other side to your point there, when someone is physically initiating with me, showing their hand in that way, it becomes safe in my mind to express my feelings. Fi ignoring can be a bitch sometimes so i'm not always sure. I will be expressing my excitement and enthusiasm of being around that person for certain, though. That comes quite naturally

[grumpyvic81]

LSI-Tis can be quite impulsive if they are trying to prove something to themselves and others. They can go overboard. Also, Ne POLR paranoia can lead them to do some pretty insane illogical shit. The right type of EIE is supposed to help them understand social/emotional dynamics in a clear-cut way.

Ah ok, I only wrote that based on the couple LSI-Ti's Ive known & type descs. The ones I know are not too insane lol I think so that maybe counts too.