The enneagram trifix theory is missing a center: the soul center

[mclane]

@Aylen what's your gut type, 9? If it's not, your soul type probably is 9.

[Number 9 large]

@Aylen what's your gut type, 9? If it's not, your soul type probably is 9.

She is 9 lol but she thinks is a 4

[mclane]

She is 9 lol but she thinks is a 4

I like to trust that a person's self-awareness is good enough for them to be able to type themselves correctly (which might not always be the case). In Aylen's case, I think it is probably more than sufficient. Iirc, she typed herself 458 trifix. Based on her interaction on the forum, I can agree with that as long as her soul fix is E9.

[Aylen]

She is 9 lol but she thinks is a 4

You're still a 9 too! A LARGE one.

[Number 9 large]

You're still a 9 too! A LARGE one.

Yeah very

[Aylen]

@Aylen what's your gut type, 9? If it's not, your soul type probably is 9.

I don't use tritype anymore BUT my "soul urge" in numerology is 9 so sure why not. 9 is a good number. Maybe you intuitively picked up on my soul urge aka heart's desire number.

From the numerology site I linked you:

"Soul Urge 9
You have a deep need to achieve a higher state of consciousness, teach others how to achieve theirs, and learn to give and receive.

When you look deep into your core, you have an underlying and pressing need to engage in some sort of humanitarian service. Yours is a spiritual path and you’re here to love unconditionally, however that may manifest in your life. You’re often a hopeless romantic at heart and can set yourself up for disappointment when people don’t measure up to your ideals.

The number 9 is the number of completion in Numerology. It’s the number of the old soul, of letting go, of releasing attachments, and of loss.

You’re at your optimal when you’re tapping into your creativity, sensitivity, and selflessness. Beware that others may find that you’re ideas are a little on the cuckoo-side! This Soul Urge number is a powerful one demanding that you learn to transform and heal (both yourself and others) while letting go of the past freely and without bitterness.

You may find yourself tripping over into the arena of resentment, of intolerance, or gullibility. You may have to deal with enmeshment with your family of origin throughout your life. Your task is to let go of family issues fully and completely. You often feel either resentment toward the family or feel overly responsible for them.

You need to be aware that people respond much more favorably to you when you connect with them through being a compassionate active listener rather than a preacher, lecturer, or proselytizer. Understand that you can have an intimidating quality to you, despite your big heart. So be careful about how your frame your discussion so that people don’t feel as though you’re patronizing them.

Some of your internal struggles might include being perceived as arrogant or unapproachable. Realize that everyone thinks you have it all (or have it all together) and so you find it difficult to ask for help or support. It’s not only okay to ask for help, it’s very healing for you.

You’re truly connecting with your abilities to both give and receive (and usually the receiving part is much harder for you!). Know that your 9 Soul Urge is a profound journey that offers you multifaceted opportunities to touch the lives of others and heal some of your own deepest wounds."

[mclane]

I don't use tritype anymore BUT my "soul urge" in numerology is 9 so sure why not. 9 is a good number. Maybe you intuitively picked up on my soul urge aka heart's desire number.

From the numerology site I linked you:

"Soul Urge 9
You have a deep need to achieve a higher state of consciousness, teach others how to achieve theirs, and learn to give and receive.

When you look deep into your core, you have an underlying and pressing need to engage in some sort of humanitarian service. Yours is a spiritual path and you’re here to love unconditionally, however that may manifest in your life. You’re often a hopeless romantic at heart and can set yourself up for disappointment when people don’t measure up to your ideals.

The number 9 is the number of completion in Numerology. It’s the number of the old soul, of letting go, of releasing attachments, and of loss.

You’re at your optimal when you’re tapping into your creativity, sensitivity, and selflessness. Beware that others may find that you’re ideas are a little on the cuckoo-side! This Soul Urge number is a powerful one demanding that you learn to transform and heal (both yourself and others) while letting go of the past freely and without bitterness.

You may find yourself tripping over into the arena of resentment, of intolerance, or gullibility. You may have to deal with enmeshment with your family of origin throughout your life. Your task is to let go of family issues fully and completely. You often feel either resentment toward the family or feel overly responsible for them.

You need to be aware that people respond much more favorably to you when you connect with them through being a compassionate active listener rather than a preacher, lecturer, or proselytizer. Understand that you can have an intimidating quality to you, despite your big heart. So be careful about how your frame your discussion so that people don’t feel as though you’re patronizing them.

Some of your internal struggles might include being perceived as arrogant or unapproachable. Realize that everyone thinks you have it all (or have it all together) and so you find it difficult to ask for help or support. It’s not only okay to ask for help, it’s very healing for you.

You’re truly connecting with your abilities to both give and receive (and usually the receiving part is much harder for you!). Know that your 9 Soul Urge is a profound journey that offers you multifaceted opportunities to touch the lives of others and heal some of your own deepest wounds."

I associate type 9 with numerology 7. If you relate to soul number 9, the equivalent could be 6w7.

[Aylen]

I associate type 9 with numerology 7. If you relate to soul number 9, the equivalent could be 6w7.

I have three 7s and one 9 as core numbers in numerology but they do not sound like enneagram 9 to me. Depending on the position of the 7 it means slightly different things. It is my life path, expression and personality number. The soul number doesn't sound like 6w7 to me. Which descriptions of enneagram do you use most and what makes it sound alike to you? I probably won't respond tonight since I am watching a movie and having dinner now and I am being pushed to get off here.

"A 7 Life Path is a searcher and a seeker of the truth.

You have a clear and compelling sense of yourself as a spiritual being. As a result, your life path is devoted to investigations into the unknown, and finding the answers to the mysteries of life.

You are well-equipped to handle your task. You possess a fine mind; you are an analytical thinker, capable of great concentration and theoretical insight. You enjoy research, and putting the pieces of an intellectual puzzle together. Once you have enough pieces in place, you are capable of highly creative insight and practical solutions to problems.

"LIFE PATH 7: SOLITUDE AND SOUL SEARCHING

The 7 Life Path enjoys solitude and prefers to work alone. You need time to contemplate your ideas without the intrusion of other people's thoughts. You are a lone wolf, a person who lives by his own ideas and methods. As a result, close associations are difficult for you to form and keep, especially marriage. You need your space and privacy, which, when violated, can cause you great frustration and irritation.

When your life is balanced, however, you are both charming and attractive. You can be the life of a party, and enjoy performing before an audience. You enjoy displaying your wit and knowledge, which makes you attractive to others, especially the opposite sex. But you have distinct limits.

While you are generous in social situations, sharing your attention and energy freely, you are keenly aware of the need to "come off stage" and return to the solitude of your lair. You associate peace with the unobtrusive privacy of your world. Therefore, intimacy is difficult for you, because you guard your inner world like a mother lion does her cubs.

THE DOWNSIDE OF THE 7'S INWARD FOCUS

All this privacy and aloneness can cause isolation and loneliness, however. With a 7 Life Path, you can be aware of an emptiness in your life, a part of you that yearns for company and close companionship that may be unsatisfied.

If isolation is brought to the extreme, you can become cynical and suspicious. You can develop hidden, selfish motives, which people may sense and may cause them discomfort around you.

You must guard against becoming too withdrawn and independent, thus shutting out the love of others and keeping you from experiencing the true joy of friendship and close companionship. You must especially watch out for selfishness and egocentricity, thinking of yourself as the center of the universe, the only person who really matters. Social contact gives you perspective on yourself and on life, while too much isolation can make you too narrow and even shut off from the rest of the world.

THE CHALLENGE OF A 7 LIFE PATH

Secretly, you may feel jealous of the easy relationships formed by others; you may perceive others as less inhibited than you, or more free to express themselves. You may harshly criticize yourself for not being more gregarious, powerful, or capable of greater leadership.

Your challenge in life is to maintain your independence without feeling isolated or ineffectual. You must hold fast to your unique view on the world, while at the same time being open to others and the knowledge they have to offer.

With your abilities to learn, analyze, seek out answer's to life's important questions, you have the potential for enormous growth and success in life. By the time you reach middle age, you will radiate refinement and wisdom. Pythagoras loved the seven for its great spiritual potential."

[mclane]

Which descriptions of enneagram do you use most and what makes it sound alike to you?

I tap into the Akashic Records to obtain the information from the source itself

Depending on the position of the 7 it means slightly different things

Yeah, that seems to be the case. I have it as my personality number.

[Aylen]

I tap into the Akashic Records to obtain the information from the source itself

Well then, carry on and don't get lost in there! lol

Yeah, that seems to be the case. I have it as my personality number.

Cool I have that too, so do some other forum members whose charts I've done. One IEI 4 and one EII-Ne 6. Also a couple others whose charts I don't have on this computer to double check.

Personality Number 7 – Meaning in Numerology

In Numerology, the number 7 represents perfection, the perfect integration between the physical and spiritual worlds, thus being the symbol of the changing Universe. But their interpretations go far beyond.

Want to know the meaning of number 7 in Numerology and the Personality meaning? So, find out now why it is considered the number of mysticism.

Interesting Facts About Number 7

The number 7 is associated with spirituality, introspection and occultism, relating to reflection and wisdom, with the search arranged on the mystery of life, on scientific knowledge and on intelligence.

A person of number 7 can, however, be very inflexible, cranky and quiet, showing sarcasm. He is generally a wise person, who thinks deeply about all things and is interested in mystical matters.

Although this person looks cool and calculating, the person of number 7 is very demanding, both with herself and with the acquaintances and relatives. She likes neat surroundings, always escapes from noise and agitation and allows herself to stay very concentrated.

The person of number 7 is a lover of nature and of animals, showing great sensitivity to distinguish between right and wrong, resenting himself too much with any kind of injustice.

In Numerology, the number 7 has a great importance, mainly because it represents the mystical and occult side.

Who has the number 7 is guided by the desire to understand the world and people and seek greater development for their spirituality.

Meaning and Symbolism

Among all others, the number 7 is the most mystical and most connected to spirituality and to the knowledge of the occult, according to the number of perfection. It can be found in the most diverse rituals, myths and religions.

The meaning of number 7 in Numerology is associated with magic and the mystical side of things, and can even be found in several cycles of our life, such as the days of the week, the phases of the Moon, the menstrual cycle, the colors of the rainbow and musical notes, among others.

In this way, everything shows that the number 7 is the bridge between the physical and the spiritual, since it also belongs to the natural phenomena, while demonstrating the mysteries of the Universe. The star is the mystic symbol related to the number 7 and its colors are violet and purple, both intrinsic to spirituality.

As a stone, the 7 has the amethyst, mineral also known for its characteristics of developing mental abilities and openness of spirit to new knowledge and experiences.

A person of number 7 needs to take some care not to unbalance his own energies in function of the others. Because you are very fond of helping, you may not realize that you are getting involved in problems that are not part of your life.

Being very attached to spirituality, the person of number 7 also has the ability to influence the mystical and psychic capacities of other people, since it is easier to understand the feelings of others with their keen intuition.

The person of number 7 will always seek better explanations or means to fill an existential void, seeking guidance to understand the chaos of the Universe. His spiritual progress must be sought in reconciling his intellectual side with his intuition.

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This is Hans Decoz interpretation of personalty 7. I own his software and took his classes so I usually use his.


PERSONALITY

Your Personality number is derived from the consonants of your full
name at birth. Your Personality is like a narrow entrance hall to the
great room that is your true nature. It is those aspects that you feel
comfortable sharing with people at the outset of a relationship. With
time and trust, you invite others into the deeper aspects of your nature;
you reveal more of who you really are, in effect, your Heart's Desire,
Expression, and so on.
Your Personality number often serves as a censoring device, both in
terms of what you send out, as well as what you allow to approach. It
discriminates in the kinds of people and information you let enter your
heart and mind. For this reason, your Personality is usually much more
narrow and protective in its definition than the real you. It can screen
out some of what you do not want to deal with -- people or situations --
but it also welcomes those things that immediately relate to your inner
nature.
Your Personality number also indicates how others perceive you. No
one can be objective about himself or herself. Even our closest friends
and relatives have trouble describing how they see us.
[...]

Personality 7

"You seem mysterious and different. People see you as serious
and studious. You are highly independent and self- sufficient. Your
exceptional intelligence and wisdom are quickly noticed, people respect
you. You are not one to attract people on the basis of your warmth or
compassion -- though you may be loaded with both -- but because of
your obvious insight into life's mysteries.

You are hard to get to know. You are often withdrawn. It is common
for people to see your focus turn inside of yourself in the middle of a
conversation.

You have the makings of an intellectual and an aristocrat but you
have to guard against arrogance and an attitude of, "I've got it all
figured out".

There have been periods in your life when you had little concern for
your clothing or fashion, while at other times you are very aware of
your clothing and use it to make a specific impression.
You appear dignified no matter how you dress., but a well groomed
seven with a touch of dash definitely has an advantage. Your confidence
increases when you know you are well dressed.

You are recognized as spiritual and religious, with your very
own ideas regarding the purpose of life and the Creator.
You are an inspired speaker, but only when discussing subjects that
really interest you. Otherwise, you are not one for chatter.
Your love of knowledge and wisdom shows. "

[mclane]

Well then, carry on and don't get lost in there! lol


Cool I have that too, so do some other forum members whose charts I've done. One IEI 4 and one EII-Ne 6. Also a couple others whose charts I don't have on this computer to double check.

Personality Number 7 – Meaning in Numerology

In Numerology, the number 7 represents perfection, the perfect integration between the physical and spiritual worlds, thus being the symbol of the changing Universe. But their interpretations go far beyond.

Want to know the meaning of number 7 in Numerology and the Personality meaning? So, find out now why it is considered the number of mysticism.

Interesting Facts About Number 7

The number 7 is associated with spirituality, introspection and occultism, relating to reflection and wisdom, with the search arranged on the mystery of life, on scientific knowledge and on intelligence.

A person of number 7 can, however, be very inflexible, cranky and quiet, showing sarcasm. He is generally a wise person, who thinks deeply about all things and is interested in mystical matters.

Although this person looks cool and calculating, the person of number 7 is very demanding, both with herself and with the acquaintances and relatives. She likes neat surroundings, always escapes from noise and agitation and allows herself to stay very concentrated.

The person of number 7 is a lover of nature and of animals, showing great sensitivity to distinguish between right and wrong, resenting himself too much with any kind of injustice.

In Numerology, the number 7 has a great importance, mainly because it represents the mystical and occult side.

Who has the number 7 is guided by the desire to understand the world and people and seek greater development for their spirituality.

Meaning and Symbolism

Among all others, the number 7 is the most mystical and most connected to spirituality and to the knowledge of the occult, according to the number of perfection. It can be found in the most diverse rituals, myths and religions.

The meaning of number 7 in Numerology is associated with magic and the mystical side of things, and can even be found in several cycles of our life, such as the days of the week, the phases of the Moon, the menstrual cycle, the colors of the rainbow and musical notes, among others.

In this way, everything shows that the number 7 is the bridge between the physical and the spiritual, since it also belongs to the natural phenomena, while demonstrating the mysteries of the Universe. The star is the mystic symbol related to the number 7 and its colors are violet and purple, both intrinsic to spirituality.

As a stone, the 7 has the amethyst, mineral also known for its characteristics of developing mental abilities and openness of spirit to new knowledge and experiences.

A person of number 7 needs to take some care not to unbalance his own energies in function of the others. Because you are very fond of helping, you may not realize that you are getting involved in problems that are not part of your life.

Being very attached to spirituality, the person of number 7 also has the ability to influence the mystical and psychic capacities of other people, since it is easier to understand the feelings of others with their keen intuition.

The person of number 7 will always seek better explanations or means to fill an existential void, seeking guidance to understand the chaos of the Universe. His spiritual progress must be sought in reconciling his intellectual side with his intuition.

--------------------------------------------------------------

This is Hans Decoz interpretation of personalty 7. I own his software and took his classes so I usually use his.


PERSONALITY

Your Personality number is derived from the consonants of your full
name at birth. Your Personality is like a narrow entrance hall to the
great room that is your true nature. It is those aspects that you feel
comfortable sharing with people at the outset of a relationship. With
time and trust, you invite others into the deeper aspects of your nature;
you reveal more of who you really are, in effect, your Heart's Desire,
Expression, and so on.
Your Personality number often serves as a censoring device, both in
terms of what you send out, as well as what you allow to approach. It
discriminates in the kinds of people and information you let enter your
heart and mind. For this reason, your Personality is usually much more
narrow and protective in its definition than the real you. It can screen
out some of what you do not want to deal with -- people or situations --
but it also welcomes those things that immediately relate to your inner
nature.
Your Personality number also indicates how others perceive you. No
one can be objective about himself or herself. Even our closest friends
and relatives have trouble describing how they see us.
[...]

Personality 7

"You seem mysterious and different. People see you as serious
and studious. You are highly independent and self- sufficient. Your
exceptional intelligence and wisdom are quickly noticed, people respect
you. You are not one to attract people on the basis of your warmth or
compassion -- though you may be loaded with both -- but because of
your obvious insight into life's mysteries.

You are hard to get to know. You are often withdrawn. It is common
for people to see your focus turn inside of yourself in the middle of a
conversation.

You have the makings of an intellectual and an aristocrat but you
have to guard against arrogance and an attitude of, "I've got it all
figured out".

There have been periods in your life when you had little concern for
your clothing or fashion, while at other times you are very aware of
your clothing and use it to make a specific impression.
You appear dignified no matter how you dress., but a well groomed
seven with a touch of dash definitely has an advantage. Your confidence
increases when you know you are well dressed.

You are recognized as spiritual and religious, with your very
own ideas regarding the purpose of life and the Creator.
You are an inspired speaker, but only when discussing subjects that
really interest you. Otherwise, you are not one for chatter.
Your love of knowledge and wisdom shows. "

Yeah, I would imagine a 7 personality to be some sort of INxx (most likely INFJ, probably scores as such in MBTI).