You're still a 9 too! A LARGE one.Originally Posted by Number 9 large
You're still a 9 too! A LARGE one.
“My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.” —C.G. Jung
Yeah veryYou're still a 9 too! A LARGE one.
I don't use tritype anymore BUT my "soul urge" in numerology is 9 so sure why not. 9 is a good number. Maybe you intuitively picked up on my soul urge aka heart's desire number.
From the numerology site I linked you:
"Soul Urge 9
You have a deep need to achieve a higher state of consciousness, teach others how to achieve theirs, and learn to give and receive.
When you look deep into your core, you have an underlying and pressing need to engage in some sort of humanitarian service. Yours is a spiritual path and you’re here to love unconditionally, however that may manifest in your life. You’re often a hopeless romantic at heart and can set yourself up for disappointment when people don’t measure up to your ideals.
The number 9 is the number of completion in Numerology. It’s the number of the old soul, of letting go, of releasing attachments, and of loss.
You’re at your optimal when you’re tapping into your creativity, sensitivity, and selflessness. Beware that others may find that you’re ideas are a little on the cuckoo-side! This Soul Urge number is a powerful one demanding that you learn to transform and heal (both yourself and others) while letting go of the past freely and without bitterness.
You may find yourself tripping over into the arena of resentment, of intolerance, or gullibility. You may have to deal with enmeshment with your family of origin throughout your life. Your task is to let go of family issues fully and completely. You often feel either resentment toward the family or feel overly responsible for them.
You need to be aware that people respond much more favorably to you when you connect with them through being a compassionate active listener rather than a preacher, lecturer, or proselytizer. Understand that you can have an intimidating quality to you, despite your big heart. So be careful about how your frame your discussion so that people don’t feel as though you’re patronizing them.
Some of your internal struggles might include being perceived as arrogant or unapproachable. Realize that everyone thinks you have it all (or have it all together) and so you find it difficult to ask for help or support. It’s not only okay to ask for help, it’s very healing for you.
You’re truly connecting with your abilities to both give and receive (and usually the receiving part is much harder for you!). Know that your 9 Soul Urge is a profound journey that offers you multifaceted opportunities to touch the lives of others and heal some of your own deepest wounds."
“My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.” —C.G. Jung
I associate type 9 with numerology 7. If you relate to soul number 9, the equivalent could be 6w7.I don't use tritype anymore BUT my "soul urge" in numerology is 9 so sure why not. 9 is a good number. Maybe you intuitively picked up on my soul urge aka heart's desire number.
From the numerology site I linked you:
"Soul Urge 9
You have a deep need to achieve a higher state of consciousness, teach others how to achieve theirs, and learn to give and receive.
When you look deep into your core, you have an underlying and pressing need to engage in some sort of humanitarian service. Yours is a spiritual path and you’re here to love unconditionally, however that may manifest in your life. You’re often a hopeless romantic at heart and can set yourself up for disappointment when people don’t measure up to your ideals.
The number 9 is the number of completion in Numerology. It’s the number of the old soul, of letting go, of releasing attachments, and of loss.
You’re at your optimal when you’re tapping into your creativity, sensitivity, and selflessness. Beware that others may find that you’re ideas are a little on the cuckoo-side! This Soul Urge number is a powerful one demanding that you learn to transform and heal (both yourself and others) while letting go of the past freely and without bitterness.
You may find yourself tripping over into the arena of resentment, of intolerance, or gullibility. You may have to deal with enmeshment with your family of origin throughout your life. Your task is to let go of family issues fully and completely. You often feel either resentment toward the family or feel overly responsible for them.
You need to be aware that people respond much more favorably to you when you connect with them through being a compassionate active listener rather than a preacher, lecturer, or proselytizer. Understand that you can have an intimidating quality to you, despite your big heart. So be careful about how your frame your discussion so that people don’t feel as though you’re patronizing them.
Some of your internal struggles might include being perceived as arrogant or unapproachable. Realize that everyone thinks you have it all (or have it all together) and so you find it difficult to ask for help or support. It’s not only okay to ask for help, it’s very healing for you.
You’re truly connecting with your abilities to both give and receive (and usually the receiving part is much harder for you!). Know that your 9 Soul Urge is a profound journey that offers you multifaceted opportunities to touch the lives of others and heal some of your own deepest wounds."
I have three 7s and one 9 as core numbers in numerology but they do not sound like enneagram 9 to me. Depending on the position of the 7 it means slightly different things. It is my life path, expression and personality number. The soul number doesn't sound like 6w7 to me. Which descriptions of enneagram do you use most and what makes it sound alike to you? I probably won't respond tonight since I am watching a movie and having dinner now and I am being pushed to get off here.
Last edited by Aylen; 09-13-2019 at 06:39 PM.
“My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.” —C.G. Jung
I tap into the Akashic Records to obtain the information from the source itself
Yeah, that seems to be the case. I have it as my personality number.Depending on the position of the 7 it means slightly different things
Last edited by mclane; 09-13-2019 at 01:36 AM.
Trialectics sounds like a bad attempt to get out of postmodernity. The better way is simply to return to unity. Three is a good number since it turns an unstable figure like a square into a stable one with triangles, but dialectics already have that. I guess a trialectic could mean building tetrahedrons instead of just engaging in "progress" via the dialectic and I've used that concept creatively before, but enneagram doesn't relate to tetrahedrons in any way.
you're missing the point in that the enneagram is a personality theory, which is separate from the "soul". a soul does not have personality traits.
And you affirm this how? How do you know the soul can't be typed?
How do you define "the soul"?
Another aspect of a person like the body, mind, and heart.
No. Let me educate you. Teeth are the hard, whitey and bitey thingies in your mouth. That is one way of defining an aspect of a person. What what im asking you is how you define the soul.
A definition: 1. state or describe exactly the nature, scope, or meaning of.
2. mark out the boundary or limits of.
This is your lesson of the day.
@maniac , @Remiel, I hope you are not expecting me to do dissertation here and try to convince you of the existence of the soul. I have better things to do. It's just that I consider it self-evident. You don't ? That's your problem, not mine. Btw with these emphasis on definitions you are sounding like alpha types. ILI wouldn't care about this issue.
When I talk about the mind it's a given that I talk about the psychological aspects that are the result of physical neurology, gray matter to you. Neurons fire when they reach action potential, for example. You can't just drop a term like soul and expect everyone to know what you're talking about. Even the term vibe is more concrete.
Also, ending with some pissant attempt to jab at my type aint making you look any better.
I don’t think “soul” is really definable but it would be nice to at least have a rough definition. I think that since there are some “types” of souls that people talk about that could be a starting point. Ex. when someone’s an “old soul” or if someone has, as Ursula would say, a “poor, unfortunate soul”. What I really think people mean to say when they throw around the word “soul”, is someone’s character. Evil, angelic, old, broken, whatever. You’re describing how someone is.
･ﾟ*✧ 𝓘 𝓌𝒾𝓁𝓁 𝓃𝑜𝓉 𝒶𝒸𝒸𝑒𝓅𝓉 𝒶 𝓁𝒾𝒻𝑒 𝓘 𝒹𝑜 𝓃𝑜𝓉 𝒹𝑒𝓈𝑒𝓇𝓋𝑒 ✧*:･ﾟ
Tbh, I don't really know what the soul is. I believe it is some sort of invisible thing that processes/carries information, and carries over from one incarnation to the next. It is also our connection to 'source". AkuManiMani said that the soul is the combined motivations and preferences that make up a person, but I believe this has more to do with Fi. The soul I think actually is linked to Ni. Wish I had a better answer but if I'd had discovered what the soul was exactly I would probably have won the Nobel price (or maybe not, given the decline of spirituality of the present age).
I always knew LSEs and ESEs had no souls.
The soul I believe is also a sort of "GPS" that guides you towards your destiny and/or deeper desires. In this sense, it is diametrically opposed to " forcing" your way into reality, which is how some types prefer to conduct themselves. In particular I believe the soul is linked with +Ni, which is a function that gamma and delta quadra value (as per model B). So it is reasonable to think that the ones that are less focused on this aspect of reality would be the more "soulless" types. These would be LSI and ESE (who have -Ne/+Ni as PoLR). Note that soulless in this sense does not imply evil or negative in some way; it simply means that these types prefer to follow their own preferences in a down-to-earth way instead of hearing or following the calling of their +Ni (which does not mean that they are exempt from their effects; the fact that you do not value something does not mean that it ceases to exist).
Cmon they are very caring
It's all a big trap to lure you into dependency so they can torture and feed off your misery.
I second this.
･ﾟ*✧ 𝓘 𝓌𝒾𝓁𝓁 𝓃𝑜𝓉 𝒶𝒸𝒸𝑒𝓅𝓉 𝒶 𝓁𝒾𝒻𝑒 𝓘 𝒹𝑜 𝓃𝑜𝓉 𝒹𝑒𝓈𝑒𝓇𝓋𝑒 ✧*:･ﾟ
Something I've been observing: another parameter that belongs to each center I believe is Alignment (the D&D style alignment). For instance; someone could be Neutral Good in their Heart Center (as main center), True Neutral in their Head Center (as second center), and Chaotic Evil in their Gut Center (and something else in their soul center). This is experimental for now but I think it's true. It could explain variations and multi-layering of personality.
I would love to hear more theories like this.
Wait, @Number 9 large is a 9sle’s can be 9’s
Posting Permissions
Reply With Quote
