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  • SEE

    8 47.06%
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    0 0%
  • LIE

    0 0%
  • ILI

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  • EIE

    7 41.18%
  • IEI

    0 0%
  • SLE

    0 0%
  • LSI

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  • IEE

    2 11.76%
  • EII

    0 0%
  • LSE

    0 0%
  • SLI

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  • ESE

    0 0%
  • SEI

    0 0%
  • ILE

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    @Number 9 large Yeah bruh. That's called black and white thinking. I can't believe you're saying 6s are primarily a logical type, when they are in the reactive triad and primarily driven by fear. Logic =/= Thinking! you're saying no one else thinks, except for logical types and head types.

    Sixes are the primary type in the Thinking Center, meaning that they have the most trouble contacting their own inner guidance. As a result, they do not have confidence in their own minds and judgments.
    Wow, doesn't this sound like low T?
    Enneagram Six with a Seven-Wing: "The Buddy"
    6w7s are often described as warm and a people-person, and here it is, from the exact same website you quoted. Especially with w7, I wonder why that is? Maybe because 7 gives an extroverted, less "thinking" or "logical" (from MBTI and socionics) approach, and a more outward approach as they externalise their fear. Of course, when they move to the outside, I wonder what they might find? People! Especially with a 2 fix.

    Your way of "proving" this is by saying that if you don't feel, you must be a head type, if you don't think, you must be a image type, and if you just do, you're a gut type. What about the fears? How can you try to put logic like that in a system that's primarily about fears and emotions? Have you asked him if he's ever felt the 2s core fears, or do you think that just like the way you can rationalize socionics because it's a primarily Ti system, you can also rationalise Enneagram, with its complex fears which cannot be quantified, and by extension people too?

    Also, all of this stuff you just "proved" is failing to consider the fact that ethical is a different word from emotional. An ethical type can be really calm and collected, and if the image you have of ethical types in your head is someone who can never prove themselves in an argument or is always governed by their emotions or whatever, it's wrong - which you seem to be implying by continuously highlighting that they have problems with logical solutions, and therefore cannot be a head type. You're also saying 7s derive logical conclusions when in fact a 7 can often derive conclusions based on their ETHICAL PRINCIPLES which is what ethical types are all about, rather than merely "feeling", because everyone feels. Thinking type =/= logical conclusions, thinking type = primarily in their heads, driven by FEAR.

    Enneagram is about emotions. Stop trying to take them out of this. And if you continue saying that they don't measure different aspects of personality, which they do, you just look like a fool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by voider View Post
    @Number 9 large Yeah bruh. That's called black and white thinking. I can't believe you're saying 6s are primarily a logical type, when they are in the reactive triad and primarily driven by fear. Logic =/= Thinking! you're saying no one else thinks, except for logical types and head types.

    Wow, doesn't this sound like low T?
    6w7s are often described as warm and a people-person, and here it is, from the exact same website you quoted. Especially with w7, I wonder why that is? Maybe because 7 gives an extroverted, less "thinking" or "logical" (from MBTI and socionics) approach, and a more outward approach as they externalise their fear. Of course, when they move to the outside, I wonder what they might find? People! Especially with a 2 fix.

    Your way of "proving" this is by saying that if you don't feel, you must be a head type, if you don't think, you must be a image type, and if you just do, you're a gut type. What about the fears? How can you try to put logic like that in a system that's primarily about fears and emotions? Have you asked him if he's ever felt the 2s core fears, or do you think that just like the way you can rationalize socionics because it's a primarily Ti system, you can also rationalise Enneagram, with its complex fears which cannot be quantified, and by extension people too?

    Also, all of this stuff you just "proved" is failing to consider the fact that ethical is a different word from emotional. An ethical type can be really calm and collected, and if the image you have of ethical types in your head is someone who can never prove themselves in an argument or is always governed by their emotions or whatever, it's wrong - which you seem to be implying by continuously highlighting that they have problems with logical solutions, and therefore cannot be a head type. You're also saying 7s derive logical conclusions when in fact a 7 can often derive conclusions based on their ETHICAL PRINCIPLES which is what ethical types are all about, rather than merely "feeling", because everyone feels. Thinking type =/= logical conclusions, thinking type = primarily in their heads, driven by FEAR.

    Enneagram is about emotions. Stop trying to take them out of this. And if you continue saying that they don't measure different aspects of personality, which they do, you just look like a fool.
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    Quote Originally Posted by voider View Post
    @Number 9 large Yeah bruh. That's called black and white thinking. I can't believe you're saying 6s are primarily a logical type, when they are in the reactive triad and primarily driven by fear. Logic =/= Thinking! you're saying no one else thinks, except for logical types and head types.

    Wow, doesn't this sound like low T?
    6w7s are often described as warm and a people-person, and here it is, from the exact same website you quoted. Especially with w7, I wonder why that is? Maybe because 7 gives an extroverted, less "thinking" or "logical" (from MBTI and socionics) approach, and a more outward approach as they externalise their fear. Of course, when they move to the outside, I wonder what they might find? People! Especially with a 2 fix.

    Your way of "proving" this is by saying that if you don't feel, you must be a head type, if you don't think, you must be a image type, and if you just do, you're a gut type. What about the fears? How can you try to put logic like that in a system that's primarily about fears and emotions? Have you asked him if he's ever felt the 2s core fears, or do you think that just like the way you can rationalize socionics because it's a primarily Ti system, you can also rationalise Enneagram, with its complex fears which cannot be quantified, and by extension people too?

    Also, all of this stuff you just "proved" is failing to consider the fact that ethical is a different word from emotional. An ethical type can be really calm and collected, and if the image you have of ethical types in your head is someone who can never prove themselves in an argument or is always governed by their emotions or whatever, it's wrong - which you seem to be implying by continuously highlighting that they have problems with logical solutions, and therefore cannot be a head type. You're also saying 7s derive logical conclusions when in fact a 7 can often derive conclusions based on their ETHICAL PRINCIPLES which is what ethical types are all about, rather than merely "feeling", because everyone feels. Thinking type =/= logical conclusions, thinking type = primarily in their heads, driven by FEAR.

    Enneagram is about emotions. Stop trying to take them out of this. And if you continue saying that they don't measure different aspects of personality, which they do, you just look like a fool.
    Girl went IN, well played.
    As a 3w4, I wonder what that limits me to in his mind LOL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by queentiger View Post
    Girl went IN, well played.
    As a 3w4, I wonder what that limits me to in his mind LOL.
    He thinks 3w2 is SEE and 3w4 is IEE, respectively.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fresh meat View Post
    He thinks 3w2 is SEE and 3w4 is IEE, respectively.
    Love being an IEE LOL
    Which types don't have representation to him?

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    Quote Originally Posted by queentiger View Post
    Love being an IEE LOL
    Which types don't have representation to him?
    That’s a great question, maybe we should refer to the scholar himself!

    P.S. 3w4 as IEE doesn’t make sense to me because 3w4 is CLEARLY Se/Ni, more than 3w2 imo
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    Quote Originally Posted by fresh meat View Post
    That’s a great question, maybe we should refer to the scholar himself!

    P.S. 3w4 as IEE doesn’t make sense to me because 3w4 is CLEARLY Se/Ni, more than 3w2 imo
    Indeed, 3 is pretty Se/Ni and extraverted (so ENxj or ESxp). I mean an Ne/Si could be 3w4 sure, but I'd expect their to be a correlation (not causation) with ENxj/ESxp and type 3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by voider View Post
    @Number 9 large Yeah bruh. That's called black and white thinking. I can't believe you're saying 6s are primarily a logical type, when they are in the reactive triad and primarily driven by fear. Logic =/= Thinking! you're saying no one else thinks, except for logical types and head types.

    Wow, doesn't this sound like low T?
    6w7s are often described as warm and a people-person, and here it is, from the exact same website you quoted. Especially with w7, I wonder why that is? Maybe because 7 gives an extroverted, less "thinking" or "logical" (from MBTI and socionics) approach, and a more outward approach as they externalise their fear. Of course, when they move to the outside, I wonder what they might find? People! Especially with a 2 fix.

    Your way of "proving" this is by saying that if you don't feel, you must be a head type, if you don't think, you must be a image type, and if you just do, you're a gut type. What about the fears? How can you try to put logic like that in a system that's primarily about fears and emotions? Have you asked him if he's ever felt the 2s core fears, or do you think that just like the way you can rationalize socionics because it's a primarily Ti system, you can also rationalise Enneagram, with its complex fears which cannot be quantified, and by extension people too?

    Also, all of this stuff you just "proved" is failing to consider the fact that ethical is a different word from emotional. An ethical type can be really calm and collected, and if the image you have of ethical types in your head is someone who can never prove themselves in an argument or is always governed by their emotions or whatever, it's wrong - which you seem to be implying by continuously highlighting that they have problems with logical solutions, and therefore cannot be a head type. You're also saying 7s derive logical conclusions when in fact a 7 can often derive conclusions based on their ETHICAL PRINCIPLES which is what ethical types are all about, rather than merely "feeling", because everyone feels. Thinking type =/= logical conclusions, thinking type = primarily in their heads, driven by FEAR.

    Enneagram is about emotions. Stop trying to take them out of this. And if you continue saying that they don't measure different aspects of personality, which they do, you just look like a fool.
    Enneagram is not about emotions. Its also about CENTERS OF INTELLIGENCE, WHICH CORRELATE WITH THE THINKING AND FEELING DICHOTOMIES, jesus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Number 9 large View Post
    Enneagram is not about emotions. Its also about CENTERS OF INTELLIGENCE, WHICH CORRELATE WITH THE THINKING AND FEELING DICHOTOMIES, jesus.
    Centers of... Emotional intelligence. Due to the fact that it deals with shame, anger and fear, which are, by definition, emotions. But you can't grasp it, considering you're a thinker, right? Also, try focusing on the other aspects of my post, instead of the only one you can use clever wordplay to get out of replying to.
    @fresh meat sorry for not responding, this website won't send me notifs for when I'm mentioned for some reason. I think you embody beta values a lot more than gamma; and though a case can be made for SEE, I don't see your Fi. Maybe that's because no one has asked the right questions or because we're trying to type you over the internet, but I haven't seen it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by voider View Post
    Centers of... Emotional intelligence. Due to the fact that it deals with shame, anger and fear, which are, by definition, emotions. But you can't grasp it, considering you're a thinker, right? Also, try focusing on the other aspects of my post, instead of the only one you can use clever wordplay to get out of replying to.
    @fresh meat sorry for not responding, this website won't send me notifs for when I'm mentioned for some reason. I think you embody beta values a lot more than gamma; and though a case can be made for SEE, I don't see your Fi. Maybe that's because no one has asked the right questions or because we're trying to type you over the internet, but I haven't seen it.
    No centers of intelligence period. For the heart center that would be emotional intelligence yes, hence why almost all ethical types are in the heart center, and cannot be head center cuz that center directly correlates to Thinking in socionics and in socionics if ur good at T ur F is weaker (not a strength)

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    Arguing this is absolutely pointless, lol. I won't waste my time anymore since you won't get it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by voider View Post
    Arguing this is absolutely pointless, lol. I won't waste my time anymore since you won't get it.
    No you wont get it cuz ur Ti polr apparently. Go fuck off

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    Quote Originally Posted by Number 9 large View Post
    No you wont get it cuz ur Ti polr apparently. Go fuck off
    How mature. Are you pissed off? Are you feeling something? Wait, that's impossible, you're a thinker and a head type. Silly me.

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