If you can tell that the thing next to you is a person, you aren't high enough.Originally Posted by Vice
If you can tell that the thing next to you is a person, you aren't high enough.
Ethereal being, don't need one.
“My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.” —C.G. Jung
You could make a tailbone out of aether, spineless invertebrate.
Cuz 9
I am 9w1 and I do take stances maybe not always but I can be stubborn if I am convinced I am correct
Not sure why @Aylen didn't decide on a type but I don't think it's because she doesn't like to have conflict with others.
To me it seems more that she wants him to make his own decision rather than labeling himself based on her own opinion of him. So you can say she doesn't want her opinion to influence him and make him act like that type just because she told him so.
This is just speculation about her reason but only her know the truth
It is true I no longer use tritype but I think it is useful for narrowing down types. I would probably still recommend it to those who are unsure so they can narrow it down to the top three most probable. Then go from there to narrow down further. Most who use tritype no longer use the core theory which includes integration/disintegration and all the health levels because tritype uses a different framework. It got very diluted when I used it since the information was covered in core theory already. I just didn't find it as helpful. I was into it for at least a couple years on here before giving it up.
“My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.” —C.G. Jung
Green is still your color.
As much as I enjoy your pointless attention you should probably put it back on the topic of @fresh meat where it belongs.
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“My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.” —C.G. Jung
Alao im mad cuz relationship problems no i dont wanna talk sbout it lol
Relationships are hard.
Wise words, glad you're still around
Type 7 is not the only type prone to drug abuse which is also written into the profiles regarding health level and disintegration. This one is just based on Riso/Hudson. Most of the books mention drug addictions for several types. It also has a genetic and environmental component.
If you are sheltered most of your childhood/teens, like some people, the opportunity to experiment or be pressured into drug or alcohol use was not much an issue. Some of these people ended up having alcohol problems later in life once they were on their own because they had been so sheltered. I have been around a lot of addicts, personality is not the common link between them since some were calm quiet introverts and other were angry and spiteful extroverts. I am not willing to say someone is a 7 just based on that. I would suggest they look deeper when they have some time clean. Alcohol and drugs can make people act like a 7 or an 8 for sure like taking risks they wouldn't normally. Starting fights, walking bridge rails or climbing up on rooftops.
Since this is @fresh meat's thread I think this discussion can be thoroughly discussed in enneagram subforum if anyone wants to continue it.
The Addictive Personality:
Disorders by Enneagram Type
Don't know your Enneagram Type?While the Enneagram is a powerful tool for transformation, transformational work is not possible for those actively abusing addictive medications, alcohol, or controlled substances. Those suffering from substance abuse problems must become "sober" on a regular basis before they can sustain any in-depth inquiry into their true nature. Abuse and neglect make it almost impossible to develop the sensitivity and attention necessary to observe oneself with any clarity.
Fortunately, there are many resources available to support the addictive personality in breaking free of various forms of addictions, including books, workshops, support groups, therapy, and even inpatient care. The Enneagram is not a substitute for those resources, but combined with them, can be extremely helpful in understanding the roots of the addictive personality.
All nine Enneagram personality types can have any kind of addiction, and all nine types can be codependent. We find some tendencies toward certain addictions in the Enneagram types, however, and offer the following correlations as a beginning guideline. They are not all-inclusive and are not intended to be a complete discussion of this complex problem. Note also that the addictions and disorders listed below apply not only to each Enneagram personality type, but also each type's Direction of Disintegration.
The following material is taken from The Wisdom of the Enneagram (pages 350-352), and is offered as a preliminary study of which addictive behaviors and other imbalances coincide with each personality type. These observations are not meant to be all-inclusive or to complete, only that they are a useful starting place for studying this important application of the Enneagram.
Be sure, however, that you or someone else you are applying this information to is correctly typed. You can take the scientifically validated Riso-Hudson Enneagram Type Indicator (RHETI Version 2.5) on this website. Also, be aware that the types connected by a line on the Enneagram from your basic personality type may also show up in your own pattern of addictions, imbalances, and substance abuse.Eating Disorders & Addictions of the Types
Type 1 The Reformer
Excessive use of diets, vitamins, and cleansing techniques (fasts, diet pills, enemas). Under-eating for self-control: in extreme cases anorexia and bulimia. Alcohol to relieve tension.
Type 2 The Helper
Abusing food and over-the-counter medications. Bingeing, especially on sweets and carbohydrates. Over-eating from feeling "love-starved." Hypochondria to look for sympathy
Type 3 The Achiever
Over-stressing the body for recognition. Working out to exhaustion. Starvation diets. Workaholism. Excessive intake of coffee, stimulants, amphetamines, cocaine, steroids or excessive surgery for cosmetic improvement.
Type 4 The Individualist
Over-indulgence in rich foods, sweets, alcohol to alter mood, to socialize, and for emotional consolation. Lack of physical activity. Bulimia. Depressants. Tobacco, prescription drugs, or heroin for social anxiety. Cosmetic surgery to erase rejected features.
Type 5 The Investigator
Poor eating and sleeping habits due to minimizing needs. Neglecting hygiene and nutrition. Lack of physical activity. Psychotropic drugs for mental stimulation and escape, narcotics for anxiety.
Type 6 The Loyalist
Rigidity in diet causes nutritional imbalances ("I don't like vegetables.") Working excessively. Caffeine and amphetamines for stamina, but also alcohol and depressants to deaden anxiety. Higher susceptibility to alcoholism than many types.
Type 7 The Enthusiast
The type most prone to addictions: stimulants (caffeine, cocaine, and amphetamines), Ecstasy, psychotropics, narcotics, and alcohol but tend to avoid other depressants. Wear body out with effort to stay "up." Excessive cosmetic surgery, pain killers.
Type 8 The Challenger
Ignore physical needs and problems: avoid medical visits and check-ups. Indulging in rich foods, alcohol, tobacco while pushing self too hard leads to high stress, strokes, and heart conditions. Control issues central, although alcoholism and narcotic addictions are possible.
Type 9 The Peacemaker
Over-eating or under-eating due to lack of self-awareness and repressed anger. Lack of physical activity. Depressants and psychotropics, alcohol, marijuana, narcotics to deaden loneliness and anxiety.
http://personaldevelopmentinstitute.com/addictions.htmHow Personality Increases Risk of Drug Abuse
People with certain personality traits may at increased risk for drug use problems, and studying personality may help researchers better understand and treat these problems, according to a new review.
Many studies have attempted to link genes to the condition researchers call substance use disorder, but they've largely failed to do so, even though the condition can run in families, said Dr. Sergi Ferré, a senior scientist and section chief at the National Institute on Drug Abuse.
That may be because the connection between genes and substance use is not straightforward, and personality traits may serve as a bridge between the two, Ferré said. Personality traits have already been linked with the risk of having substance use disorder, and with certain circuits in the brain.
"We should [have] many more studies trying to connect those personality traits and genes," Ferré said. "They will allow us to get better clues about the genetic and other factors that predispose to SUD," Ferré said, referring to substance use disorder.
Once researchers understand, from a brain perspective, why people develop drug use problems, they may be able to develop drug treatments that reverse these effects, the researchers said.
Risky personalities
For example, people with introverted personalities, and who tend to have fewer positive feelings, or be attracted to rewards in life, are more likely to abuse drugs, according to the new review. In contrast, extroverted people who have more positive emotions are less likely to abuse drugs.
One reason for this may be that people with more positive emotions and who are extroverted are more sensitive to all kinds of rewards — be it rewards from social situations, winning a game, or getting a promotion — and these other rewards "compete" with the positive feelings that can come with using a drug, Ferré said. On the other hand, people with low positive emotionality/extroversion have less interest in other rewards, and are more easily pulled in by the effects of the drug, Ferré said.
A second personality trait linked with substance abuse is negative emotionality/neuroticism, or the tendency to experience negative feelings, such as anxiety and depressed mood, and respond poorly to stressors. People with substance use disorder, and other mental health disorders, often have high levels of this personality trait.
"A person that is very sensitive to punishment finds, in drugs, something that allows them to escape," Ferré said.
Finally, low levels of a trait known as constraint, which is the ability to stop a behavior or action once you start it, is also linked with an increased risk of substance abuse.
The researchers stressed that whether people abuse drugs depends on many factors, not just their genes and personality, but also their environment and past drug use.
Better treatments
Several brain circuits have been linked with the personality traits that people who develop drug problems tend to have. For example, people with low levels of positive emotions have fewer receptors for the brain chemical dopamine, which is linked with feelings of reward and pleasure. And people with fewer dopamine receptors are less sensitive to the chemical's effects, which would explain the tendency of drug users to have little interest in rewards besides drugs.
People may be born with fewer dopamine receptors than others, but drug use can also lower their numbers, possibly affecting personality and making people less extroverted, as well as increasing the risk for drug abuse.
"Drugs, they change our personality, unfortunately in the direction in making us more vulnerable to SUD," Ferré said.
A better understanding of the brain circuits linked with these risky personality traits, as well as the genes that control the brain circuits, may lead to new treatments for drug users.
"Understanding the brain systems that determine these personality traits will allow us to work on these systems pharmacologically and change them in the direction that make a person more resilient," so they can resist drug abuse, Ferré said.
Ferré and colleagues recently reviewed the link between personality traits and substance use disorder in the April issue of the journal Trends in Cognitive Sciences.
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https://www.livescience.com/44851-pe...rder-risk.html
“My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.” —C.G. Jung
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