You make a good case for 7 but you forget that each center of intelligence offers a set of qualities inherent to the types in that center. For head types this would would include thinking as a main source of their intelligence. Ti is not only weak but also unvalued in SEE.
His reckless behaviour could be attributed to a Fe Se loop. Ni isnt always visible as its an introverted function and esp in Fe subtype can be hard to see the brooding side of the character.
Also his lifestyle doesnt fit in with Te valuing, more strictly Te HA. He doesnt seem to take it seriously and as such would belong to a merry quadra. + his Fe is all over the place (before u say Fe demo, Fe is subdued in a quadra like gamma. You can compare gamma and beta by comparing slytherin and gryffindor. The houses capture nearly the entire feel of both quadras respectively.)
The caveat is that not all enneagram types and their respective centres revolve around a strength - the type can be out of touch with what you’d say is the “centre’s intelligence”. For those types, the ego-ic journey is actually about acquiring that intelligence.
For example, 3s are notably out of touch with their heart’s true desire, they become whatever their environment dictates as “success”. That’s also how Fi seeking types can be 3s IMO, they lack the internal moral compass. 9s are notably out of touch with their “gut intelligence”, which can equal both N and S in different ways.
From the mind types, it’s only 5 which is distinctly a Logical type IMO. 7s often don’t think enough or think around corners, 6s “overthink” to the point of paranoia, both of which can be signs of either strong Logic or weak Logic, in different ways. Sides of the same coin. Similar as to how an unhealthy Sexual instinct can express itself in excessive promiscuity or extreme celibacy/prudishness.
this is simply not true. each type is in the center because of their connection to the center of the intelligence. it actually isnt about acquiring the intelligence, they already have it. 3s are still very image conscious, and are affected by shame the most of any emotion, just as any image type, same with fear types and body types on anger. 9 is still a grounded type. youre talking about 6 moving to 9 acquiring ''gut'' intelligence, meaning type 6 really is type 9?
by your logic, if certain types who you say are ''out of touch'' with their intelligence center, need to acquire that said intelligence, how come, for example, that type 3, who you say is out of touch with being an image type, moves to 6 as their growth point? the arrows would be useless for those types then, and theyre not, or do you not agree
For example, 3s are notably out of touch with their heart’s true desire, they become whatever their environment dictates as “success”. That’s also how Fi seeking types can be 3s IMO, they lack the internal moral compass. 9s are notably out of touch with their “gut intelligence”, which can equal both N and S in different ways.
there are people who would argue that not even that is true. see what i mean
they do think a lot, ofc they border more on the gut center and thus replace a part of their thinking with doing and acquiring new experiences (8wing), so they have more stuff to think about. as for 7w6 they actually are quite scientific and have great minds. (to type a 7w6 as Ti polr is ridiculous, you obviously havent grasped either theory well enough to say that unironically
but they still think. they often play devils advocate and solve problems because of strong logic. where in the 6 descriptions do you ever see that 6s are strong people manipulators or anything resembling ethical type/Feeling dichotomy in socionics? their paranoia and distrust in people comes from weak ethics and intuition. (ST)
Seductive = Sexual first (and ExFx)
”Merry” = ExFx plus Positive enneagram Type (all 7s seem “merry” even as Fi valuing)
good people skills = ExFx plus Social instinct
ungrounded = EP
Where’s the 2’s obsession with approval, their pride in helping others, their need to be needed, them losing themselves in giving to others, wanting to look like a giver or lovable person (image) etc?
The weaknesses he mentioned all sound rather like unhealthy 7 manifestations to me, no signs of unhealthy 2 afaik?
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That was not my argument. My argument was that every type has the cognitive abilities to process fear. A 5 is more analytical, true, but they don't necessarily have to have valued Ti in order to apply analysis. A 6 and 7 even less so - people of these types will have the same fears, but deal with them in different ways based on sociotype and other additional factors. Any relation between Ti and head types is merely correlation, not causation.
No thats where youre wrong. The whole persona of type 5 can be directly correlated to LII if you read closely.
And no not every type has the same fears, the whole point of having and distinguishing between the types is exactly that, starting off by having different basic fears. I suggest u actually read into the theory youre discussing before joining the argument with false information.
No they wont. They have similar ways of dealing with thwir fear, instinctively. This is how their brain works. Its written how it works in numerous 6 descriptions that thats how their type works. How tou get from that to "theres so many different 6s and they all deal with their fear differently is wrong". On the core of their beinf rhey all deal with the same issues. 5s and 7s, also head types, tend to deal with the differently.5s by retreating and studying, 7s by distracting, and 6s by seeking security. This is on the basis of their type and you canr just go break the rules like that. If you disagree with me you disagree with the theory here, because im simply citing it.
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