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  • SEE

    8 47.06%
  • ESI

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  • LIE

    0 0%
  • ILI

    0 0%
  • EIE

    7 41.18%
  • IEI

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  • SLE

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  • LSI

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  • IEE

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  • EII

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  • LSE

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  • SLI

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  • ESE

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    Quote Originally Posted by voider View Post
    What about considering quadra values? Every gamma I've known, including myself, has a particular type of seriousness to them. Very matter of fact. You seem to be either oblivious to or very good at ignoring the tension that's been happening between people in this thread, liking every single post as a way of acknowledgement and encouragement. You seem to cater more to the emotional environment in this way, which suggests Fe to me, and the airy quality of ignoring tension or simply being unfazed by it while maintaining the emotional upkeep of the atmosphere suggests beta NF.

    I voted SEE, but after reading this thread, I've changed my mind
    wow that’s actually a really good point

    and that’s why I made it a multiple choice poll hunny

    but you could also also argue the post liking is just me enjoying different perspectives and new ways of thinking about shit (head type/7/extroverted perceiving)

    what do you think for the ennea type to finally battle this fucking Socionics = Enneagram thing
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    I think having a perceiving function as your dom kinda makes you seem like an intuitive person in the first place cuz you’re absorbing/opposite of absorbing (drenching???) information without much of a filter compared to the boring Js

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    @voider also not sure about how serious I am, I’m bubbly but at the same time I would kinda consider myself “serious” but that’s a vague word. Like I kind of associate serious with deep and I think I’m secretly deep even tho I’m a loud dumbass LOL
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    @fresh meat
    If you ignore the tension that could suggest you want a more positive emotional atmosphere and thus Fe+. If this were the case, that would bring IEE strongly into the picture along with maybe ESE (both these types have 4D Fe+)

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    Quote Originally Posted by queentiger View Post
    @fresh meat
    If you ignore the tension that could suggest you want a more positive emotional atmosphere and thus Fe+. If this were the case, that would bring IEE strongly into the picture along with maybe ESE (both these types have 4D Fe+)
    I don’t actually avoid tension is the thing though, I enjoy dramatics and stirring the pot, like you said in the other thread and this is known by pretty much everyone here

    i definitely relate to -Fe over +Fe

    but then being a 7 (again including this with socionics because fuck it theyre both valid) brings a little more positivity of course compared to a 3w4 who’s more obviously icy and dramatic

    but I’ve never known a 7 who hasn’t had a big dramatic personality
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    Quote Originally Posted by fresh meat View Post
    I don’t actually avoid tension is the thing though, I enjoy dramatics and stirring the pot, like you said in the other thing and this is known by pretty much everyone here

    i definitely relate to -Fe over +Fe

    but then being a 7 (again including this socionics because fuck it theyre both valid) brings a little more positivity of course compared to a 3w4 who’s more obviously icy and dramatic

    but I’ve never known a 7 who hasn’t had a big dramatic personality
    Haha comparing it to a 3w4 SEE is actually a pretty good comparison given that's my type. Yeah it would seem Fe- is definitely fitting of you (the better Fe if you ask me ). You do seem more SEE than EIE in general to me though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fresh meat
    but I’ve never known a 7 who hasn’t had a big dramatic personality

    or at least an SX 7.

    the so/sx 7s are the little flamboyant butterflies spreading love and joy and those are usually the IEE and ILE 7s

    the sx ones are intense thrill seekers (and fuck you if you get in the way and don’t wanna join ) and the sp ones realists and those are more often SEE and SLE
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    I think you're 7, but apparently that's impossible since 7s have to be an Ep type I don't see why that has to be so, but that's a discussion for another place.

    Se in itself is not only about gathering sensory experience, it's also about territory, force and power. I haven't seen anyone here discuss that aspect of it, and I haven't seen you mention anything about it either. How do you assert your opinion on others? Se is prone to blunt forcing it. And Se *will* have opinions at the ready due to the fact that every piece of information they gather gets processed with a judging function afterward.

    SEEs often lack caution and reserve. Their strategy towards solving problems may involve persuasion and brute force; their natural response to opposition or obstacle is to display further aggression or resistance, including in instances where such resistance is not necessarily appropriate. They may be distraught, tempestuous, and highly emotionally turbulent when their strategy fails. Because of their manic instability, they can exhibit accusatory or antagonistic tendencies towards others; some SEEs fall into a cycle of ruining their relationships or vocational prospects in this way.
    As for seriousness being deep, it doesn't necessarily have to be so. I think beta NFs are "deep" like that but they are also less serious than gammas. I should clarify what I understand as serious: prone to disregarding the joking or fleeting aspect of a statement and considering it as a full representation of what the person means. To me, what is being said is what the person means; crude beta humor is insulting to me. In SEE and ESI, weak Ne; a failure to consider anything that's not an obvious joke as a joking statement, and taking it as a representation of someone's Fi values. It ends up looking "serious", even if they do crack jokes or are stereotypically fun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by voider View Post
    I think you're 7, but apparently that's impossible since 7s have to be an Ep type I don't see why that has to be so, but that's a discussion for another place.

    Se in itself is not only about gathering sensory experience, it's also about territory, force and power. I haven't seen anyone here discuss that aspect of it, and I haven't seen you mention anything about it either. How do you assert your opinion on others? Se is prone to blunt forcing it. And Se *will* have opinions at the ready due to the fact that every piece of information they gather gets processed with a judging function afterward.



    As for seriousness being deep, it doesn't necessarily have to be so. I think beta NFs are "deep" like that but they are also less serious than gammas. I should clarify what I understand as serious: prone to disregarding the joking or fleeting aspect of a statement and considering it as a full representation of what the person means. To me, what is being said is what the person means; crude beta humor is insulting to me. In SEE and ESI, weak Ne; a failure to consider anything that's not an obvious joke as a joking statement, and taking it as a representation of someone's Fi values. It ends up looking "serious", even if they do crack jokes or are stereotypically fun.
    i can definitely blunt force it but at the same time I can often keep it casual and let it be run over too, I think having a 9 fix makes this more iffy to figure out.

    Also all these questions in general are so hard for me, I don’t think I have a huge sense of myself like that to answer all of them because I’m always so sucked into experiencing things outside of me rather than experiencing the inside

    but I can SOMEWHAT relate to what is being said is what is meant, but I feel like that’s also the 6 coming out of you

    I still feel like we’re twins even if we’re different types tho
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    Quote Originally Posted by fresh meat View Post
    i can definitely blunt force it but at the same time I can often keep it casual and let it be run over too, I think having a 9 fix makes this more iffy to figure out.

    Also all these questions in general are so hard for me, I don’t think I have a huge sense of myself like that to answer all of them because I’m always so sucked into experiencing things outside of me rather than experiencing the inside

    but I can SOMEWHAT relate to what is being said is what is meant, but I feel like that’s also the 6 coming out of you

    I still feel like we’re twins even if we’re different types tho
    That's true -- I find it really hard to look into myself as well. I suppose I'm definitely more prone to blunt forcing myself on others considering I'm a sx counterphobic 6 with an 8 fix, lol, a 9 fix definitely muddles things up. I read something in the duality thread you just posted about not wanting your parents to control you, I can definitely see that as applying to Se!

    What do you mean 'the 6 coming out of you'?

    and hell yea

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    Quote Originally Posted by voider View Post
    crude beta humor is insulting to me.
    cri everytim lol.
    roast em right back

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    @voider “what is being said is what is meant” seems kind of like a reactive attitude and somewhat based in trust/loyalty in a way that seems 6 to me

    the phobic 6 would have a blind faith in what is being said but the counterphobic 6 would almost be waiting for the lies lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by fresh meat View Post
    @voider “what is being said is what is meant” seems kind of like a reactive attitude and somewhat based in trust/loyalty in a way that seems 6 to me

    the phobic 6 would have a blind faith in what is being said but the counterphobic 6 would almost be waiting for the lies lol
    Yeah this is true, also if they are 628 then they'd be double reactive.
    As a 3, I'm more socially aware - I know that what is being said isn't always what is meant, I'm more attuned to playing and seeing social games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by queentiger View Post
    Yeah this is true, also if they are 628 then they'd be double reactive.
    As a 3, I'm more socially aware - I know that what is being said isn't always what is meant, I'm more attuned to playing and seeing social games.
    Yeah I could kinda see that statement as SO last too, for sure

    and yeah me too, having a 3 fix and SO secondary
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    Quote Originally Posted by fresh meat View Post
    Yeah I could kinda see that statement as SO last too, for sure

    and yeah me too, having a 3 fix and SO secondary
    Indeed, also a common misconception of Se leads is that we're forceful 100% of the time. This isn't true - that would actually apply more to LSEs or ESEs (who have 4D demonstrative Se, so it's almost out of control). I'm very aware of when I need to apply force and when I don't, and also good at snatching opportunities in the moment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by queentiger View Post
    Indeed, also a common misconception of Se leads is that we're forceful 100% of the time. This isn't true - that would actually apply more to LSEs or ESEs (who have 4D demonstrative Se, so it's almost out of control). I'm very aware of when I need to apply force and when I don't, and also good at snatching opportunities in the moment.
    Thats very true, plus them being EJs and EJ temperament already bulldozering through things

    I love how this thread evolved from my type - and adoring me - to talking about type theory in general
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    Also your new avi definitely screams Gamma SF compared to the old one
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    @fresh meat that makes a LOT of sense, I'm definitely waiting with my knife out for someone to attack me, I suppose that's just what a cp 6 does. Lol.

    And hehe, yeah, I saw the pic and I immediately liked it ;P

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    Quote Originally Posted by voider View Post
    @fresh meat that makes a LOT of sense, I'm definitely waiting with my knife out for someone to attack me, I suppose that's just what a cp 6 does. Lol.

    And hehe, yeah, I saw the pic and I immediately liked it ;P
    Also, I think, even though 6 is that enneatype that can go with any socionics/MBTI type, it kinda correlates more with low intuition and Fi/Te (loyalty, what systems to trust, etc) so that makes sense why it applies to Gamma SFs
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    I'm still sad that you couldn't see Chevalier de Lorraine in action.
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    direct quote from me #drama :

    “i dunno bro I’m gonna deal with this shit when they get back I’m not even gonna give them the attention and text them and ima stay up all night waiting for them too cuz I did some meth”
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    Speaking of I love how everyone isn’t even questioning me doing meth or moralizing it, like wow that’s just typical Bled.

    P.S. before the triggered people come in I know it’s bad and I’m not planning on doing it again
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    Quote Originally Posted by fresh meat View Post
    Speaking of I love how everyone isn’t even questioning me doing meth or moralizing it, like wow that’s just typical Bled.

    P.S. before the triggered people come in I know it’s bad and I’m not planning on doing it again
    inb4 sol spergs out
    "hur dur drugs r bad u r beta f look at my video bloggers list"

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    Quote Originally Posted by fresh meat View Post
    Speaking of I love how everyone isn’t even questioning me doing meth or moralizing it, like wow that’s just typical Bled.

    P.S. before the triggered people come in I know it’s bad and I’m not planning on doing it again
    Yeah were u expecting some LSI to put u on brakes lol. Also the "i know its bad blabla shame on u guys for not calling me out" is some type 2 behaviour (because type 2 is superego type), not id type like 7

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    I guess we’ve (or I’ve) at least rounded up the top three choices:

    SEE-Fi (closer to NF, boosted Fe/Ni, less aggressive)
    EIE-Fe (more aggressive, closer to SF)
    IEE-Fi (closer to SF, more Se/Ni-ish)

    Notice that they all have some variety of SF in them, either being an SF type (SEE) or having closer ties to SF behavior (Fi subtype IEE closer to SF, Fe subtype EIE closer to SF).

    This all suggests a common thread of sensual experiences and doing things cuz it feels right that connects with 7.

    @voider are you still convinced of Beta NF at this point?
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    Quote Originally Posted by fresh meat View Post
    I guess we’ve (or I’ve) at least rounded up the top three choices:

    SEE-Fi (closer to NF, boosted Fe/Ni, less aggressive)
    EIE-Fe (more aggressive, closer to SF)
    IEE-Fi (closer to SF, more Se/Ni-ish)

    Notice that they all have some variety of SF in them, either being an SF type (SEE) or having closer ties to SF behavior (Fi subtype IEE closer to SF, Fe subtype EIE closer to SF).

    This all suggests a common thread of sensual experiences and doing things cuz it feels right that connects with 7.

    @voider are you still convinced of Beta NF at this point?
    That list seems right, I'm also at a similar stage with a list of 3 types - it's similar to yours but has LIE rather than IEE (making my list SEE/EIE/LIE)

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    Ya every type likes drugs

    even ur precious EII babies like to flirt with a rough line of coke
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    We made it to 6 pages babyyyy, keep cumin
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    Can all the Gamma SFs and Beta NFs just fuckin’ get together and claim our title as kings and queens of earth ??
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    Quote Originally Posted by fresh meat View Post
    Can all the Gamma SFs and Beta NFs just fuckin’ get together and claim our title as kings and queens of earth ??
    As there is a chance I could be LIE not SEE, I will reject this movement for the time being.

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    Im just seeing more correlations than you do cuz ive studied it more in depth.
    Oh I see the correlations, but how many times do you have to be told that correlation doesn't equal causation?

    If you genuinely believe what you are saying - it means your people skills are awful and you don't know many people. This would point us to you being an introvert. As 7 correlates more with extraversion in general, according to your logic this means you cannot be a 7. Try typing yourself correctly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by queentiger View Post
    Oh I see the correlations, but how many times do you have to be told that correlation doesn't equal causation?

    If you genuinely believe what you are saying - it means your people skills are awful and you don't know many people. This would point us to you being an introvert. As 7 correlates more with extraversion in general, according to your logic this means you cannot be a 7. Try typing yourself correctly.
    LSI, Ne PoLR, that’s why he wanna make me his dualie so bad

    But seriously, I laugh at a 7 studying in depth. We study in breadth of knowledge, not depth
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    Quote Originally Posted by fresh meat View Post
    LSI, Ne PoLR, that’s why he wanna make me his dualie so bad

    But seriously, I laugh at a 7 studying in depth. We study in breadth of knowledge, not depth
    Then you remember their line to 5

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    Anyways, I certainly don’t think ALL enneagram and sociotype combinations are possible (fuck no), I just think there’s a lot more than he’s willing to admit
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    where is the Gamma values? where is Fi? this guy exudes Beta values wtf people. how is being EIE not compatible with being 7? Fe+Se together can be very 7, he could have a strong 2 fix and that could explain it if you're going to be all Nazi about correlating with COMPLETELY DIFFERENT systems

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    Quote Originally Posted by Armalite View Post
    where is the Gamma values? where is Fi? this guy exudes Beta values wtf people. how is being EIE not compatible with being 7? Fe+Se together can be very 7
    Fe+Se together would also be fitting of SEE though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Armalite View Post
    where is the Gamma values? where is Fi? this guy exudes Beta values wtf people. how is being EIE not compatible with being 7? Fe+Se together can be very 7, he could have a strong 2 fix and that could explain it if you're going to be all Nazi about correlating with COMPLETELY DIFFERENT systems
    Different systems that are explaining the same phenomenon MUST correlate 100% or else one of the systems is flawed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Number 9 large View Post
    Different systems that are explaining the same phenomenon MUST correlate 100% or else one of the systems is flawed.
    This simply has to be a troll or LSI.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Number 9 large View Post
    Different systems that are explaining the same phenomenon MUST correlate 100% or else one of the systems is flawed.
    I'm not sure if I'd say they explain exactly the same phenomenon, at the same time I'd also say that Enneagram is more flawed than Socionics

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