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    male genitals are itchy. that's a bad thing about them, everything else is great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aylen View Post
    In the future, maybe but not now. People are not as accepting on the inside as they want to appear are on the outside, if you know what I mean (jeez please do not read that in an @End's tone lol).
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    I tend consider myself as bit non genderless (as I have little need to identify as either) in male body because I have little need to advertise it. Keeps intruders away or something maybe better than having female body.

    I bet most males do not feel their genitals just consider the trunk as fast waste disposal unit and balls can be cut off if you really fear kick in the nuts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xerxe View Post
    male genitals are itchy. that's a bad thing about them, everything else is great.
    Quote Originally Posted by Heretic 007 View Post
    I tend consider myself as bit non genderless (as I have little need to identify as either) in male body because I have little need to advertise it. Keeps intruders away or something maybe better than having female body.

    I bet most males do not feel their genitals just consider the trunk as fast waste disposal unit and balls can be cut off if you really fear kick in the nuts.
    I hope I didn't make you guys defensive of your genitals. I only meant if everything about me remained the same it would be awkward. They would either be small to match my petite size or too big which would make it very uncomfortable to move around. I would feel vulnerable either way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aylen View Post
    I hope I didn't make you guys defensive of your genitals. I only meant if everything about me remained the same it would be awkward. They would either be small to match my petite size or too big which would make it very uncomfortable to move around. I would feel vulnerable either way.
    Yeah, lol I have heard that among northern people male genitals tend to change in size dynamically based on temperature. The length in pants can be very small compared to erected state.

    Seriously, kick in the nuts can be a daily a joke but not among daily threats. Have I gotten any? Maybe I have hit them couple of times.
    Of course Italians such as FDG have swollen balls due to soccer.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Heretic 007 View Post
    Yeah, lol I have heard that among northern people male genitals tend to change in size dynamically based on temperature. The length in pants can be very small compared to erected state.

    Seriously, kick in the nuts can be a daily a joke but not among daily threats. Have I gotten any? Maybe I have hit them couple of times.
    Of course Italians such as FDG have swollen balls due to soccer.


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    With choices like these I can't complain too much about bra choices and I do like to have some pretty choices around. Probably spent way too much on those in the past. I can't say they were all that supportive tbh. Who really needs them around the house anyway (unless I am exercising) I used to think I needed it all the time but I am not so concerned about that anymore since some studies show that it is better to go without it when possible. Some guys wear undershirts when they go out in public depending on what they have to wear so it isn't much different really. I guess the cost of some bras can be high but there are affordable options too. Some men's undershirts are very expensive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aylen View Post
    I hope I didn't make you guys defensive of your genitals. I only meant if everything about me remained the same it would be awkward. They would either be small to match my petite size or too big which would make it very uncomfortable to move around. I would feel vulnerable either way.
    LOL. I just meant that they're itchy. Other than that, they're my favourite part of my body.

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    I once got curious and read a reddit from a guy who willingly castrated himself at 25 (and then regretted it).

    anyway, some ppl can fuck even after castration, but their sex drive is greatly diminished. others can't (and erectile tissue eventually changes into... regular tissue).

    just thought i'd post that here.

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    I would tend to say no just because of how inconvenient it sounds most of the time.

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    Subscribing to the general principle that man(kind) perceives the grass as greener on the other side - i'd probably leave fate to his workings and mine to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by para View Post
    Subscribing to the general principle that man(kind) perceives the grass as greener on the other side - i'd probably leave fate to his workings and mine to me.
    I was thinking of this too. I remember something about thought experiments on people with different physical and/or mental health maladies who were asked if they would trade their's for someone else's. Most people would keep their own no matter how bad they thought they had it when given the choice to switch with someone else they thought the other person had it worse.

    I guess an example would be would you trade places with someone who was blinded as an adult if you were paralyzed from the neck down as an adult or vice versa. Most people choose their own maladies in the end so the grass isn't really that much greener when you are hypothetically given a choice to switch places. The reality is most people are much more comfortable with the devil they know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aylen View Post
    I was thinking of this too. I remember something about thought experiments on people with different physical and/or mental health maladies who were asked if they would trade their's for someone else's. Most people would keep their own no matter how bad they thought they had it when given the choice to switch with someone else they thought the other person had it worse.

    I guess an example would be would you trade places with someone who was blinded as an adult if you were paralyzed from the neck down as an adult or vice versa. Most people choose their own maladies in the end so the grass isn't really that much greener when you are hypothetically given a choice to switch places. The reality is most people are much more comfortable with the devil they know.
    I think one could make the argument that there are distinctions between comparisons and positive/negative value of those comparisons, but with relation to disability i can easily imagine that there is a very concrete benefit to keeping your ''devil'', as you know how to operate within its grasp. I would see the situation of qualitatively different profit differently, however, imagining that to experience the profit of another thing is worth lacking the profit that one currently owns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by para View Post
    I think one could make the argument that there are distinctions between comparisons and positive/negative value of those comparisons, but with relation to disability i can easily imagine that there is a very concrete benefit to keeping your ''devil'', as you know how to operate within its grasp. I would see the situation of qualitatively different profit differently, however, imagining that to experience the profit of another thing is worth lacking the profit that one currently owns.
    I understand what you are saying. I still do not see advantages for me personally to change my gender. I can see more disadvantage for reasons I have mentioned, size, personality, etc. I say this as someone who has not had a particularly easy life (many might say it was horrible in some ways I won't go into but I don't think that). I feel I have been fortunate. I wouldn't trade all my experiences (painful cramps and sore breasts once a month included) as a woman even for the promise of financial or other material gains that I might or might not even get to experience as a man. Not all men or women are created equally and that diversity is what has made us more cooperative not only with other genders but within our own gender groups. At least that is how I see it today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aylen View Post
    I understand what you are saying. I still do not see advantages for me personally to change my gender. I can see more disadvantage for reasons I have mentioned, size, personality, etc. I say this as someone who has not had a particularly easy life (many might say it was horrible in some ways I won't go into but I don't think that). I feel I have been fortunate. I wouldn't trade all my experiences (painful cramps and sore breasts once a month included) as a woman even for the promise of financial or other material gains that I might or might not even get to experience as a man. Not all men or women are created equally and that diversity is what has made us more cooperative not only with other genders but within our own gender groups. At least that is how I see it today.
    I agree - on a basis close to yours. I am already sceptical of ideas of intervention in something we have constructed as cosmic ''order'', an instinctual affinity for the natural. It is, and it could not be any other way because of this is-ness.

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    Considering how much trouble women face just because of their sex-gender, specially in a non-first world country like mine, the answer is pretty much obvious.
    inb4 "women's issues are not real"

    still, I wouldn't give up who I am. I don't really think about gender most of the time. People seem too fixated upon it these days, imho.

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    as a woman i think it would be way worse if i were a man

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    For me personally, it would probably be all around better socially since I already have many "female" characteristics like being shy, sensitive- and emotionally aware, and I've had a lot of str8 male douchebags say they would marry me in a second if only I were a female, but since I'm a guy and they are not really that gay it's just gross. =D Also ppl would stop assuming I'm any good at logical/technical shit just cuz I'm a manly 6'2 Chad. In those aspects it would be a relief.

    But there are certain assumptions of authority I admit I would miss like when I went to this theme park once the bag lady automatically put everything in my name because I was the man of the family... but I guess, I did find that silly, but yeah- people are naturally going to miss losing any kind of power, perceived or real. Then again if I were a girl I would have Beta Males like Joss Whedon and all of Hollywood wanting to empower me every millisecond because of it sooo idk. But would I feel encouraged by that, or would it feel condescending, I'm not really sure. It's already irritating enough from an outsider perspective when Betas want to 'empower women' just to obviously sleep and perv out with them, but are not being directly honest about it.

    Though it would be kinda weird, not necessarily good or bad 'just different' - to be horny way less often, but when I am horny- it packing a lot more of a punch and having greater feeling orgasms generally speaking (tho I can already mimic that somewhat with self control and denying my inner perv long enough to where eventually it explodes to pure heavenly bliss.). I would absolutely hate some wrong-wing d-bag telling me what I can and can't do with my own uterus though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BandD View Post
    It's already irritating enough from an outsider perspective when Betas want to 'empower women' just to obviously sleep and perv out with them, but are not being directly honest about it.
    The fact that most women are genuinely this naïve is the only thing that I find completely alienating about them. They are like innocent little lambs and I am the tyger in William Blake's poems. Then they dress in ways that just are distracting to anyone who is attracted to female boobs/butts/thighs and call it "not sexual." (Incidentally, despite most females being innocent-minded and most males wanting experience, lambs are usually stereotyped as male and tigers as female. Nature does everything you could dream of already.)

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    I've never worried in my life about people incorrectly judging that I'm a pedophile. What an awkward background nervousness to have as you go about life. I can enjoy smiling and saying hi to the cute toddler in the shopping cart. Without being afraid their mother might assume I wanna force it into intercourse. Jesus. I don't know if this concern is universal, but I've heard it from a handful of dudes, and understandably so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ashlesha View Post
    I've never worried in my life about people incorrectly judging that I'm a pedophile. What an awkward background nervousness to have as you go about life. I can enjoy smiling and saying hi to the cute toddler in the shopping cart. Without being afraid their mother might assume I wanna force it into intercourse. Jesus. I don't know if this concern is universal, but I've heard it from a handful of dudes, and understandably so.
    I'm no authority on social norms, but I think it's more acceptable to smile and such at babies in comparison to toddlers/kids.

    What you've mentioned is somewhat on the radar though, yeah. I've been considering getting a career involving children/teenagers. I'm worried that, as a man, it would be more difficult to get hired.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xerxe View Post
    would your life be better if you were the opposite gender? for any reason: social / economic / whatever.
    You will drastically increase your risk of cancer cuz of the hormone therapy. Hope that helps with any decisions.

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    I can enjoy smiling and saying hi to the cute toddler in the shopping cart.
    While eating breakfast at the restaurant today this little girl about 2-3 years old was walking around the room and this male in his 60s looked down and smiled at her innocently. I didn't think anything sexual/creepy about it at all when it happened. If he said 'she is cute isn't she!' I might have changed my mind but the smile itself was innocent enough. And even if he did say that it would depend on the tone of voice or something idk. (Now I feel bad if by accident this guy was actually a pedo but I just thought ya know, he was being nice & grandfatherly lol)

    Women allowing to be more openly caring and feeley to other people's kids doesn't seem that unfair to me because babies do naturally come out of vaginas, not stinky male assholes lol. I mean it's crude but... that is sort of the default truth to me. It does suck when overly paranoid people falsely accuse you of pedophilia though to feel more self righteous themselves or as a way to be authoritative. Nowadays I'm not sure women are even cut that much slack tho and authority figures are trained to go after female pedos too, look at the media frenzy around Brittany Zamora. (though some argue she should have gotten 44 years in prison not 20)

    But god yeah I remember those weird Starr workers thinking I wanted children at the park lol it was like no gross lol. But from a Te-ish perspective, nabbing a pedo was most likely a way for them to earn $15-25 an hour instead of only 10.



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    Actually before I was born, my mother dreamt that she would be giving birth to a boy, and my birth weight was huge and I was heavier/larger than all the other babies in the ward that day who were also all male. IIRC my parents expected that I was going to be male until I was actually born.

    In my head, I also often-- probably more often than not --narrate my own voice in a boy's voice too... not to mention many others have commented on my lower voice.
    I think I do see my gender identity as being male gendered in many ways. I basically spent my childhood with myself and others expecting me to be a nerdy tomboy.
    I think I and others have always held me up to expectations for both genders, and I have undergone a lot of pressure from it, but also had a ton of freedom too in some ways.
    Having 4D Te and Se AND a vagina (in a developed country) is sort of like having unlimited power, in theory at least. I think if my soul could have made the final decision on what gender for me to be, this would have been my logic behind that, and actually would make a pretty logical extension of my Se-lead value system too.

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    I don't think it matters much one way or another for me. Sometimes I thought it'd be slightly easier for me personally to be male because I like work and don't like taking care of kids but then horrible male stereotypes just bring it back to a net neutral.

    Also, I'm pretty sure you can change your sex by losing/gaining weight/muscle for all the people who put "yes" on the poll so if you feel like experimenting try it but be cautious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coeruleum View Post
    Also, I'm pretty sure you can change your sex by losing/gaining weight/muscle for all the people who put "yes" on the poll so if you feel like experimenting try it but be cautious.
    well fug : DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

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    The fact that most women are genuinely this naïve is the only thing that I find completely alienating about them. They are like innocent little lambs and I am the tyger in William Blake's poems.


    I'm not sure women are innocent minded so much as they understand that the perceived innocent person tends to be given the most power in the world. So whether they are truly innocent about something or not, they understand how easily other people are manipulated by innocence. Women are quite clever with this, and are better at watching what they say because of it I think. Sure, men are more aggressive and powerful but at what cost to ourselves?

    I know what you mean though. I think they might be more naive/unaware of Betas doing this specifically (not naive in the general sense at all)- because they themselves aren't responding sexually to them so they aren't even really thinking how the Beta men want them sexually to themselves.

    I think men are more hard wired to pay attention to everybody else's sexual agendas, including our own. Semen is magically objective power. Women, with the possibility of being pregnant and how that can change their life so much- are understandably more focused just on their own.

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    i already have a dick and tits and i want neither

    i take estrogen and inject a testosterone blocker

    my style is androgynous and i mix masc/fem clothes frequently

    how the fuck do i answer this

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    Quote Originally Posted by faceonfire View Post
    i already have a dick and tits and i want neither

    i take estrogen and inject a testosterone blocker

    my style is androgynous and i mix masc/fem clothes frequently

    how the fuck do i answer this

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    [cringe/degeneracy warning]

    I'd do it if it were actually possible, not because I feel like "I was born in the wrong body" or anything like that (and I'm not an incel, I know people on Twitter who want to bang me), but because it would be hot and also it would be easier to manipulate people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vizany View Post
    [cringe/degeneracy warning]

    I'd do it if it were actually possible, not because I feel like "I was born in the wrong body" or anything like that (and I'm not an incel, I know people on Twitter who want to bang me), but because it would be hot and also it would be easier to manipulate people.
    What would you get out of the manipulations?

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    I don't like the concept of being born in the wrong body, I think its bullshit. You are who you are, as you are. Trying to change your gender or your race like Rachel Dolezal is mentally ill behavior and should be treated as such. Why can't you just accept you cant choose everything in life, some things you can't control. Somone with cerebral palsy would love to identify as an able bodied person, it really doesnt change their circumstances.

    For the people that think that life would be easier if you were a different sex are concetrating on some fantasy to rescue you from your problems instead of fixing them.

    With that said, I would never want to be a woman even if I had the magical choice. Women do not have it easier, they have their own problems to deal with.

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    ok boomer

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    I agree with the boomer, btw, the estrogens bombarding of the last decades (see the phtalates) are apparently really changing our sexual biology, especially making men more feminine... with pritty big disastrous consequences, such as low fertility, and I suspect that the boom of sex-change lately is influenced by this...

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    hahahahahaha how the fuck is gender real like hahahaha dude just stop performing it like bro wear a blouse haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by ooo View Post
    I agree with the boomer, btw, the estrogens bombarding of the last decades (see the phtalates) are apparently really changing our sexual biology, especially making men more feminine... with pritty big disastrous consequences, such as low fertility, and I suspect that the boom of sex-change lately is influenced by this...
    I recently read an article about a study that says women who have type O blood type have the most fertility problems. I didn't really look more into it. I am not type O. Neither is anyone in my immediate family. We have some A, B and AB types in my family. No one in my family really wants to procreate. Especially the younger ones. That has more to do with the state of the world for most of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aylen View Post
    I recently read an article about a study that says women who have type O blood type have the most fertility problems. I didn't really look more into it. I am not type O. Neither is anyone in my immediate family. We have some A, B and AB types in my family. No one in my family really wants to procreate. Especially the younger ones. That has more to do with the state of the world for most of them.
    idk, it could be... my mum was type 0 negative and got pregnant 5 times or more. but she was an exceptional persona, no doubt on that. I guess it's easy to say women don't want kids, nor men want them now, anyway, I guess not everyone in the past wanted to have 10+ kids either... they happened, obviously more than now, for some reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ooo View Post
    idk, it could be... my mum was type 0 negative and got pregnant 5 times or more. but she was an exceptional persona, no doubt on that. I guess it's easy to say women don't want kids, nor men want them now, anyway, I guess not everyone in the past wanted to have 10+ kids either... they happened, obviously more than now, for some reason.
    My mom and grandmother have/had type A blood. My mom has 4 children now adults and alive. My grandmother had 5 to live into adulthood. 1 died at 16 and a set of twins that died when they were between 4-6. I don't remember how they died but it was together.

    I think they needed so many kids to work the land. My mom being the youngest and her dad's favorite never had to work the land though when she was a child. They also hired people to do it too. Her brothers and sisters left home all before they were 20 to do their own thing since they lived in a village of like 100 people. My mom was 29 or 30 when she married my bio dad and lived at home until then. She had children much later in life than her other siblings (except her brother closest in age to her). My grandmother didn't have my mom until she was in her 50s. I could not imagine having the energy to go through a pregnancy then deal with a baby at that age. My grandmother seemed pretty fine with it.

    My grandmother also spaced her kids apart. My mom and her oldest brother were 25+ years apart.

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    If you wear a blouse you can get pregnant, trade secrets

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    Quote Originally Posted by faceonfire View Post
    hahahahahaha how the fuck is gender real like hahahaha dude just stop performing it like bro wear a blouse haha
    yeah, like, you know, hormones, cerebral differences, different attitudes (inherent AND cultural), different bodies and appearances, hairs, sexual features... you know, don't you?

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