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    Quote Originally Posted by Mesn View Post
    Sol, your typings are shit.
    At now your opinion, being noob, is rather baseless. With better typing skills you will change it. This may take some years of regular typing.
    You oppose by overgeneralization and emotions, meanwhile thinking yourself as base Te type "TIM LSE-C". Also with ignoring Fi values. Noobs are funny.

    as I said before, your type mb ESE. seems you are annoyed by this. it's not L*E, definetely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    At now your opinion, being noob, is rather baseless. With better typing skills you will change it. This may take some years of regular typing.
    You oppose by overgeneralization and emotions, meanwhile thinking yourself as base Te type "TIM LSE-C". Also with ignoring Fi values. Noobs are funny.

    as I said before, your type mb ESE. seems you are annoyed by this. it's not L*E, definetely.
    Again, when someone speaks with logic and arguments to you, you just seem to ignore that, so people get angry (and stop being surprised with that, all people have emotions and ignoring their existence is a road to self-demise; in fact, LSEs are "anger" prone when someone acts retarded: "Besides a Holmes will inquire: “What methods did you use? What are the statistics to support what you are demonstrating? Who told you of this fact? Who are you? Who gave you the authority to talk about psychology? Are you a psychologist?”" from Type Profiles by Reinin, for example). This is not my typing thread, but you also did ignore my video (I've took it off after a week of no responses, and you were active during that time), preferring to stick to calling people "noobs" instead (https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem - this is actually about high quality discussion at this point, you don't provide that at all). I'm really surprised you aren't banned (I will push for that), because your constructiveness is close to zero (sorry, I won't believe calling everyone other than yourself a noob is even close to being constructive). And you type people not even knowing English well, nitpicking single behaviors instead of looking at the multiple alternatives and weighting it all (https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cherry_picking and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attribution_bias#Types combined) something an LSE - as an dialectical-algorithmic type - would do; your thinking is very linear and definitive, in fact, you just type "this is an XXX because I saw XYZ once, or because she has a shiny sweater" and expect everyone to listen to you without providing any further information so far because you self-identify as an expert. You can't type people based on single behaviors or signs - sometimes, gods forbid, you have to even retype!. If actually had any experience with diagnosis you would know that after limiting yourself to some options you seek to find the things that don't fit, not the ones that fit (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Differential_diagnosis - you should almost always use elimination/deduction, not induction; even when you do use deduction, you seem to take non-differentiating or poorly-differentiating qualities, like anger, clothing you saw once or the fact someone cursed with "shit", so your methods do seem poor and of no quality to me).

    (Again, you also have typed multiple Fi-doms as EIEs despite "buts". Stop ignoring people's valid concerns, advice and evidence that is contrary: you either will change one day, or you will lose it. You probably need more Fe/Fi-niceness and then maybe one day you will have an epiphany or something. Maybe.)

    And again and again, I'm not an ESE, in fact, one of the people more immersed in Socionics than anyone I know typed me SLI IRL. One other typing I've had received is actually LII. I usually show little to no cheerfulness at all when behaving naturally, which would be very uncharacteristic of an ESE (going by any description, check them). I don't value Ti or intellectualism for intellectualism (and you can trust me on this). Nobody ever typed me as an F type IRL, and I do know people who were actually corresponding with Gulenko, and I choose trust their references and experience far more than yours. I'm irritated by you lack of proper argumentation and forcefulness based on nothing (personally, I'm forceful, but only when it's based on something), as you don't provide your sources either; I can show mine, if you want to see them, so please deduct something there. And: I'm not annoyed by your typing. I'm annoyed by your methods, which seem inaccurate, baseless, useless and so on: you are stick to one, "your" system and you try to bend everything to it, instead of actually adapting and updating it. This is a critique from a purely T perspective. You are not looking for the "new beginnings" and to actually improve yourself and your results and your actions, you are just stuck ("it's fine and screw you noobs"). You are not growing at all, you are just going around typing people, sometimes against their wishes, and you are very destructive in your behavior - destructive to any kind of objective discussion, that's what I mean. At least you seem to be like that (I've scrolled through your posting history), prove me wrong. Multiple people have told you that - if so many people speak it out loud, maybe - just maybe - you should think it through again? Maybe it's you who are wrong? We are not trying to bite you and take your position, this is not a war-game, whatever are you thinking. And we are not "noobs", so chill - surprisingly you still get pro racers, who do it for years, and their best position is around 10th place; sometimes experience is not enough and people with little to no experience can achieve impressive results, this is how the world works. Being into something for years does not automatically make you right (though it definitely helps - isn't not causative, it's just a correlation), and this is something anyone with any expertise knows (something something: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunnin...3Kruger_effect - experts tend to actually underestimate their knowledge, they typically don't think about themselves as the greats / https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curse_of_knowledge - which you don't show at all / https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illusory_superiority / https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overconfidence_effect / https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-serving_bias / https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hubris - if you are into philosophy), thinking otherwise actually strongly suggest appealing to such fallacies as authority (https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argumentum_ad_verecundiam). More: if you read a book about astrology, and read another, and do it for another 10 years - that doesn't change astrology sucks and is baseless. Or, imagine just reading wrong books, by that I mean: of poor quality, you can read them forever and nothing will change or improve.

    (Gulenko or Reinin, these people don't have accounts there, are they noobs as well, just looking at their registration dates?)

    If I wanted to shit on you, I would say you do - or you did - believe in tarot, which seems very uncharacteristic of a Te-dom, especially one that combines it with Si. But you don't seem to listen to anyone outside of you current world vision, so it's all useless, as I see from your history various people have attempted to talk to you to no avail (yet, I will at least attempt this, or I will try to get you banned, mind it, as this goes on for far too long and actually destroys any kind of meaningful discussion here; it also probably made some people quit immediately after receiving such "responses"). For me, you have no qualifications to be proud of, you haven't showed any outside of self-perceived "experience" with socionics.

    If you want to know me and type me, I officially invite you to a Discord/Skype conversation/debate/discussion, we can talk (even with a translator, and I would love for it to be moderated). Let's make something constructive out of it and solve it all. But before that, please watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcHPmVxtFw8

    And, read useful improvement tips: https://www.the16types.info/vbulleti...ile-by-Gulenko (it has a "Recommendations for self-improvement" section, it took me 10 second to find with Google). Personally, I'm clearly benefiting from being close to an EII.


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