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    Quote Originally Posted by sbbds View Post
    Wtf lol. That's exactly what a scale in ability is. Skill is another word for ability. If it takes you 10 months to build a house and another person 1 week max, then you have different levels of ability for building a house.
    Sure, but quality and speed are different things.

    Somebody may suck at building a house and it may take a long time to build one, but he/she may find creative ways of building a house that makes it take a much shorter amount of time.

    In fact, that's exactly what humans did. They found creative ways of shortening the amount of time required to building a house.

    Quote Originally Posted by sbbds View Post
    You are trying to compare humans to computers as if they are exactly the same. Okay, then. I'll leave you be. Don't put your finger in the socket, Singu. lol
    Computers use silicones, brains use neurons. Hardware wise, they're exactly the same. It's just what's programmed into it that's different. And computers depend on the assumption that virtually anything that can be physically programmed, can be programmed. There is no such thing that says "Humans can do this, but computers can't". Both humans and computers are "Turing complete", which means that they're both exactly the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Singu View Post
    Sure, but quality and speed are different things.

    Somebody may suck at building a house and it may take a long time to build one, but he/she may find creative ways of building a house that makes it take a much shorter amount of time.
    Or not, or they'll build something and it'll fall apart after a month or be unlivable in. What you're saying though points to my point anyway. People have different skills in different things, period.

    Computers use silicones, brains use neurons. Hardware wise, they're exactly the same.
    What the shit is this LOL. You're a silly cone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sbbds View Post
    Or not, or they'll build something and it'll fall apart after a month or be unlivable in. What you're saying though points to my point anyway. People have different skills in different things, period.
    Yeah, no. Somebody may find such a way, and then they can teach that knowledge to others, and then others will have the exact same knowledge.

    Again, the difference is only in speed. Even IQ tests only measure speed, not inherent ability. Somebody may take 10 years, another may only take 1 year. But what they're doing is exactly the same, the difference is only in speed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Singu View Post
    Yeah, no.
    No what, Dingu?

    Somebody may find such a way, and then they can teach that knowledge to others, and then others will have the exact same knowledge.
    .... Why is it that some people figure things out to be the first ones to teach others, and others never do for specific things?

    Again, the difference is only in speed. Even IQ tests only measure speed, not inherent ability. Somebody may take 10 years, another may only take 1 year. But what they're doing is exactly the same, the difference is only in speed.
    This is like saying that a dead person and an alive person are the same. The only difference is the speed at which the alive person is taking to reach the dead state.

    If anyone ever needed proof Dingu is IEI, here it is. @Alonzo etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by sbbds View Post
    .... Why is it that some people figure things out to be the first ones to teach others, and others never do for specific things?
    The point is that it's a matter of creativity, not a matter of intelligence, which we don't know how we do it yet.

    This is why you have "Socionician dystopia" where you have people separated by types and quadras, or basically castes.

    Thankfully in real life, people receive more or less the same education, because there is an assumption that everyone has the same ability in being able to learning something. Sure some people may be "smarter" in that they may learn things faster, or they may have different interests, but that has nothing to do with the inherent ability in being able to learn something.

    Quote Originally Posted by sbbds View Post
    This is like saying that a dead person and an alive person are the same. The only difference is the speed at which the alive person is taking to reach the dead state.
    Again, I said the difference is only in the speed in which people do it, not the inherent ability.

    Here you have a "Ti type" who is being absolutely illogical and irrational.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Singu View Post
    Thankfully in real life, people receive more or less the same education, because there is an assumption that everyone has the same ability in being able to learning something.
    I think this is actually a very bad thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soundofconfusion View Post
    I think this is actually a very bad thing.
    It's only bad if you think that assumption is false.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Singu View Post
    The point is that it's a matter of creativity, not a matter of intelligence, which we don't know how we do it yet.

    This is why you have "Socionician dystopia" where you have people separated by types and quadras, or basically castes.

    Thankfully in real life, people receive more or less the same education, because there is an assumption that everyone has the same ability in being able to learning something. Sure some people may be "smarter" in that they may learn things faster, or they may have different interests, but that has nothing to do with the inherent ability in being able to learn something.



    Again, I said the difference is only in the speed in which people do it, not the inherent ability.

    Here you have a "Ti type" who is being absolutely illogical and irrational.
    You know what? I think your posting quality has decreased lately.

    You shouldn't just be this shameless about how dumb you come across. At least try to improve yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sbbds View Post
    You know what? I think your posting quality has decreased lately.

    You shouldn't just be this shameless about how dumb you come across. At least try to improve yourself.
    What's really happening is that when you make criticism-worthy, questionable judgement about others, then instead of taking responsibility for making that judgment (and perhaps admitting that possibility that your judgment could be wrong), you blame others and call them idiots.

    It's the Socionics way.

    Uploading a video of you being emotional, then having someone typing you as an "F type" doesn't somehow magically bereft you of having any logical thoughts or logical abilities. This is why basing it on purely observations don't work, because which observations are we talking about?

    A much more sensible way would be to say being emotional and logical are both within the realm of possibilities. Of course we don't know if Greta is actually capable of having logical thoughts, if all we see are 10 second clips of her being emotional. But we can also say that the human brain is capable of having any kind of rational, logical thoughts. But at the same time, they're also capable of having irrational, illogical thoughts.

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