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    Quote Originally Posted by para View Post
    EIE?
    why Fe base? she doesn't display any emotions (Fe as vulnerable function). she judges Data and facts and makes predictions based on that knowledge for the future (Ni + Te).

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    Quote Originally Posted by soundofconfusion View Post
    why Fe base? she doesn't display any emotions (Fe as vulnerable function). she judges Data and facts and makes predictions based on that knowledge for the future (Ni + Te).
    Intuitive impression from her words and energy, sorry. I think Ni ego as well, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soundofconfusion View Post
    she doesn't display any emotions



    Quote Originally Posted by soundofconfusion
    an english interview with her. "I'm a realist, I see facts"
    I'll check out the interview later, as I am interested in what she has to say as she's far from stupid.

    Still, I think she is not very wise, like many radicals who push for immediate action without thinking of the consequences. All she sees is the climate, and she seems to reject certain facts (despite what she claims) for example, how dependent our civilization is on fossil fuels (for better or worse) and that cutting our carbon emissions in half in ten years (which to her is not radical enough) would be a catastrophe that will lead to economic recessions, which will inevitably lead to the rise of the far right and ethno-nationalism all across the world. A small recession like 2008 is responsible for the rise of populism everywhere, albeit indirectly, from Trump to Brexit to Bolsonaro, and a carbon tax in France lead to political instability in France, just imagine how much of a catastrophe cutting carbon emissions by that much would be, it would rive up costs of production and living which would have a destabilizing effect. I'm not saying climate change is not an important issue, don't read me wrong here, it is but there is no "easy" solution here. It seems an ILI would be aware of this, ILIs are more likely to be labelled as 'apathetic' when it comes to politics especially in times like these because of their fear of radical solutions, which Greta is not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Ave View Post


    I'll check out the interview later, as I am interested in what she has to say as she's far from stupid.
    don't you think that her emotions at the speech are more the result of Fi convictions? ILI have Fi as activating function. of course, she's a very idealistic person, but keep in mind that she's only 16 years old. I disagree that ILI are apathetic, they hold strong values and beliefs. looking at the data, it's sadly necessary that radical solutions need to be implemented in the near future, and I think she's very aware of it. the problem with climate change is that solutions should've been implemented decades ago, and now we are in a situation where it's very obvious that we can barely do anything.

    "I'll check out the interview later, as I am interested in what she has to say as she's far from stupid."

    I personally think that she's highly gifted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soundofconfusion View Post
    don't you think that her emotions at the speech are more the result of Fi convictions? ILI have Fi as activating function.
    I want to use this as an opportunity to say I don't think Fe polr necessarily means not expressing emotions. ILIs however, need to feel they trust the people around them in order to express their feelings.

    Quote Originally Posted by soundofconfusion
    of course, she's a very idealistic person, but keep in mind that she's only 16 years old. I disagree that ILI are apathetic, they hold strong values and beliefs.
    I agree with that about ILIs, however ILIs are often not the ones to stand up in front of the world in the name of a cause, either. EIEs are more likely to do this. IME, an ILI is likely to hold their opinions and emotions in much of the time (unless they are in a more intimate setting), they are not very likely to be the voice of a cause.

    Quote Originally Posted by soundofconfusion
    looking at the data, it's sadly necessary that radical solutions need to be implemented in the near future, and I think she's very aware of it. the problem with climate change is that solutions should've been implemented decades ago, and now we are in a situation where it's very obvious that we can barely do anything.
    Yes, but I think many people accept this. But why her in to stand in front of the world and say it? This is not just stating known facts, there is something more, something I associate with EIEs and their tendency to rally people to towards a course of action. I don't think EIEs are unaware of facts, some of them are very smart and gifted beyond their peers, I have seen it myself. I'm just saying I don't think ILI would find themsleves her role, even ILIs who would agree with her proposed course of action. Personally I'm skeptical of it (or at least, that it is the best course of action) , though I do agree that the situation does not look good no matter what we do. But this is a topic for another thread.

    Quote Originally Posted by soundofconfusion
    "I'll check out the interview later, as I am interested in what she has to say as she's far from stupid."

    I personally think that she's highly gifted.
    I wouldn't doubt it.
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