Greta Thunberg

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Singu is just caught up with trying to deny the obvious reality that people have natural talents/strengths and weaknesses particular to them, to the point where he thinks we all basically have carbon copies of our hardwiring inside us and we're only defined by our experiences, if even that, because we can all do literally anything equally, including things like shooting fireballs outside of our asses.

Probably butthurt still as an adult over some early experiences where people told him he sucked at certain things and then he magnified it and internalized it forever.

[Singu]

I didn't type her based on emotion. I typed her based on what she said and her approach to the issue. Not sure why I'm bothering responding though, as I think you're kind of an idiot.

Says the biologist who believes in creationism, lol. Your entire worldview is contradictory, and yet think of yourself as being so logical, and don't even realize it when you're being irrational.

So much for a "logical" type.

You've judged her rational/logical ability from watching a fucking 2 second clip of her being emotional. You should just admit that this is irrational as hell.

The only thing I mentioned regarding emotion was how she controlled/manipulated it and her timing - pausing dramatically after her first statement, rising her emotion and bringing it back down. But her father is an actor, her mother an opera singer, and performing for an audience can be learned. Something very telling though is that the way she gets what she wants - it's through guilt and it's always been through guilt. She talks about how she changed her parent's views by making them feel guilty. That's her method. Use emotion (guilt) to get other people to do what you want. Quote statistics and show them charts to back you up, but do everything you can to play on their guilt until they give in. This is why I typed her as Te/Fi ethical.

When she started crying - so did I, it's a human empathy reaction, but listening to her speak as soon as she started on the "how dare you" and blah blah blah all the guilt-trip nonsense, no. Emotion is human, not type-related. Manipulating people by using emotion is something else.

You can obviously be both "emotionally manipulative" and logical at different times.

This is not hard to understand, but it is if you're into Socionics, apparently.

She did say that she "guilted" her parents and her family into caring about climate change so you may have a point, but this makes no difference because pretty much anyone can use guilt for their purpose.

Singu is just caught up with trying to deny the obvious reality that people have natural talents/strengths and weaknesses particular to them

The fact is that people do not differ in their ability to be rational and logical. It doesn't matter how emotional or irrational you have been at certain points. If they differ, then it's just a matter of speed in which they do it. This is not about being "PC", it's a fact.

By the same logic, you can upload a video of you being emotional, and then judge that you must lack logic, even if that actually makes no sense at all.

Again, so much for "T types"...

to the point where he thinks we all basically have carbon copies of our hardwiring inside us and we're only defined by our experiences, if even that, because we can all do literally anything equally,

That's exactly what computers fundamentally are.

There are literally no fundamental differences in computers. All computers, including computers using vacuum tubes, punch cards, transistors, silicones... they're all functionally exactly the same. If they differ, then they're just differences in speed and memory.

So it's just a matter of knowing how to program certain things. In humans, it's the same way - it's only a matter of knowing how. And obviously people can learn anything, as well as teach anything to others.

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The fact is that people do not differ in their ability to be rational and logical. It doesn't matter how emotional or irrational you have been at certain points. If they differ, then it's just a matter of speed in which they do it. This is not about being "PC", it's a fact.

By the same logic, you can upload a video of you being emotional, and then judge that you must lack logic, even if that actually makes no sense at all.

Again, so much for "T types"...

Wtf lol. That's exactly what a scale in ability is. Skill is another word for ability. If it takes you 10 months to build a house and another person 1 week max, then you have different levels of ability for building a house.

That's exactly what computers fundamentally are.

There are literally no fundamental differences in computers. All computers, including computers using vacuum tubes, punch cards, transistors, silicones... they're all functionally exactly the same. If they differ, then they're just differences in speed and memory.

So it's just a matter of knowing how to program certain things. In humans, it's the same way - it's only a matter of knowing how. And obviously people can learn anything, as well as teach anything to others.

You are trying to compare humans to computers as if they are exactly the same. Okay, then. I'll leave you be. Don't put your finger in the socket, Singu. lol

[Singu]

Wtf lol. That's exactly what a scale in ability is. Skill is another word for ability. If it takes you 10 months to build a house and another person 1 week max, then you have different levels of ability for building a house.

Sure, but quality and speed are different things.

Somebody may suck at building a house and it may take a long time to build one, but he/she may find creative ways of building a house that makes it take a much shorter amount of time.

In fact, that's exactly what humans did. They found creative ways of shortening the amount of time required to building a house.

You are trying to compare humans to computers as if they are exactly the same. Okay, then. I'll leave you be. Don't put your finger in the socket, Singu. lol

Computers use silicones, brains use neurons. Hardware wise, they're exactly the same. It's just what's programmed into it that's different. And computers depend on the assumption that virtually anything that can be physically programmed, can be programmed. There is no such thing that says "Humans can do this, but computers can't". Both humans and computers are "Turing complete", which means that they're both exactly the same.

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Sure, but quality and speed are different things.

Somebody may suck at building a house and it may take a long time to build one, but he/she may find creative ways of building a house that makes it take a much shorter amount of time.

Or not, or they'll build something and it'll fall apart after a month or be unlivable in. What you're saying though points to my point anyway. People have different skills in different things, period.

Computers use silicones, brains use neurons. Hardware wise, they're exactly the same.

What the shit is this LOL. You're a silly cone.

[Singu]

Or not, or they'll build something and it'll fall apart after a month or be unlivable in. What you're saying though points to my point anyway. People have different skills in different things, period.

Yeah, no. Somebody may find such a way, and then they can teach that knowledge to others, and then others will have the exact same knowledge.

Again, the difference is only in speed. Even IQ tests only measure speed, not inherent ability. Somebody may take 10 years, another may only take 1 year. But what they're doing is exactly the same, the difference is only in speed.

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Yeah, no.

No what, Dingu?

Somebody may find such a way, and then they can teach that knowledge to others, and then others will have the exact same knowledge.

.... Why is it that some people figure things out to be the first ones to teach others, and others never do for specific things?

Again, the difference is only in speed. Even IQ tests only measure speed, not inherent ability. Somebody may take 10 years, another may only take 1 year. But what they're doing is exactly the same, the difference is only in speed.

This is like saying that a dead person and an alive person are the same. The only difference is the speed at which the alive person is taking to reach the dead state.

If anyone ever needed proof Dingu is IEI, here it is. @Alonzo etc

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Says the biologist who believes in creationism, lol. Your entire worldview is contradictory, and yet think of yourself as being so logical, and don't even realize it when you're being irrational.

So much for a "logical" type.

You've judged her rational/logical ability from watching a fucking 2 second clip of her being emotional. You should just admit that this is irrational as hell.

Don't be so rude to squark lol. So much for an ethical type u are, Dingu.