Belle Delphine

[Djinn]

I've been thinking about her for some time, and I agree that she is probably an IEI-Fe. She's just using her acting ability to imitate an Alpha.

I agree with IEI-Fe

I have not seen much of Belle, but I have seen enough to get an idea of her type. She is quite reserved in interviews but uses very good Fe when she talks. I remember seeing a lot of people commenting on how surprised they were that they actually liked her when she was being natural. She also knows how to really milk opportunities she gets and make them last. Not to mention that she has proven she knows when initiative is appropriate (not revealing anything that could be considered hardcore porn until recently I think). Seems very much like Ni lead to me.

She sort of sucks people in with her cutesy raunchy charm and then milks them as long as she can. Very NiFe. Not to mention she needs good 4D Fi to keep people around after luring them with her creative Fe.

And that “SEI” persona people point out probably isn’t even much of a persona. If you look up her house you can see that yes, she is very attentive to environmental aesthetics, but it’s more fable-like and lacks that Si homeyness. I have actually imagined creating extremely similar (almost identical) environments for myself and would love to if I could. Don’t know much about DCNH yet, but maybe harmonizing subtype?

Yeah, I might actually go with IEI-H for her.

[Still Alive]

I agree with IEI-Fe

I have not seen much of Belle, but I have seen enough to get an idea of her type. She is quite reserved in interviews but uses very good Fe when she talks. I remember seeing a lot of people commenting on how surprised they were that they actually liked her when she was being natural. She also knows how to really milk opportunities she gets and make them last. Not to mention that she has proven she knows when initiative is appropriate (not revealing anything that could be considered hardcore porn until recently I think). Seems very much like Ni lead to me.

She sort of sucks people in with her cutesy raunchy charm and then milks them as long as she can. Very NiFe. Not to mention she needs good 4D Fi to keep people around after luring them with her creative Fe.

And that “SEI” persona people point out probably isn’t even much of a persona. If you look up her house you can see that yes, she is very attentive to environmental aesthetics, but it’s more fable-like and lacks that Si homeyness. I have actually imagined creating extremely similar (almost identical) environments for myself and would love to if I could. Don’t know much about DCNH yet, but maybe harmonizing subtype?

Yeah, I might actually go with IEI-H for her.

good analysis! I would personally type her as EIE-N.

[Djinn]

good analysis! I would personally type her as EIE-N.

EIE is considerable.

However, looking at dimensionality convinces me she has 4D Ni and Fi. It’s been a while since I saw her, but when she is being a bit more socially reserved, you (or maybe just me lol) don’t see many visual indications of 4D Fe. Her Fe comes across as very situationally focused to me and not like a constant state of being immersed in “the emotional tide” so to speak.

I think this girl is similar to Belle and probably EIE, which should illustrate a good comparison:
https://m.youtube.com/user/HarassingHarlow

[Still Alive]

EIE is considerable.

However, looking at dimensionality convinces me she has 4D Ni and Fi. It’s been a while since I saw her, but when she is being a bit more socially reserved, you (or maybe just me lol) don’t see many visual indications of 4D Fe. Her Fe comes across as very situationally focused to me and not like a constant state of being immersed in “the emotional tide” so to speak.

I think this girl is similar to Belle and probably EIE, which should illustrate a good comparison:
https://m.youtube.com/user/HarassingHarlow

I guess it's a difference in perspectives. I think it's fine if we disagree on mirror types since they are similar anyway especially considering that she has accentuated introverted functions because of her subtype. I just didn't like the SEI typings here. I agree that Linzor is an EIE.

[Djinn]

I guess it's a difference in perspectives. I think it's fine if we disagree on mirror types since they are similar anyway especially considering that she has accentuated introverted functions because of her subtype. I just didn't like the SEI typings here. I agree that Linzor is an EIE.

You may very well be correct that Belle is EIE-N. I don’t know much about DCNH yet so I don’t know the kinds of effects those subtypes can have on base type. Learning DCNH and dimensionality is actually currently a sort of background project for me.

[heptayooooooo]

Your knowledge of theory is clearly not informed by experiment.

lol funniest way to call someone a virgin

[Adam Strange]

lol funniest way to call someone a virgin

I wasn't calling him a virgin. After all, everyone starts out as a virgin. I did, and I would have remained that way if a nice, slightly crazy and mostly unsuitable female hadn't decided that she wanted to change that, and I decided that I'd be happy to let her. Yeah.

No, instead I was criticizing his application of unsubstantiated theory. He was extrapolating from an untested and incorrect assumption.

That can be funny sometimes, but it's not accurate.

[The Reality Denialist]

Tell me more about the virgin thingy (I do not personally care about this status at all let it be false or true) but I find this particular outcome in thinking quite fascinating. There are lots of somewhat highly probabilistic possibilities.

[heptayooooooo]

I wasn't calling him a virgin. After all, everyone starts out as a virgin. I did, and I would have remained that way if a nice, slightly crazy and mostly unsuitable female hadn't decided that she wanted to change that, and I decided that I'd be happy to let her. Yeah.

No, instead I was criticizing his application of unsubstantiated theory. He was extrapolating from an untested and incorrect assumption.

That can be funny sometimes, but it's not accurate.

yo im a kid (a virgin) it was kind of a joke about how this vibes

[Djangr]

SEI

[kuno]

I don’t get how she’s supposed to be Te PoLR when she’s so entrepreneurial… anything but SEI or IEI would make sense to me. I can understand LIE, EIE, and SEE votes, but I lean towards her being a Gamma putting on a good Alpha persona. So I think either LIE or SEE. Now that I think about it, maybe SEE might fit better than LIE, although I wonder how possible it is that she’s an LIE using role Fe. Perhaps she’s too good with Fe to be LIE.

[Still Alive]

I don’t get how she’s supposed to be Te PoLR when she’s so entrepreneurial… anything but SEI or IEI would make sense to me. I can understand LIE, EIE, and SEE votes, but I learn towards her being a Gamma putting on a good Alpha persona. So I think either LIE or SEE. Now that I think about it, maybe SEE might fit better than LIE, although I wonder how possible it is that she’s an LIE using role Fe. Perhaps she’s too good with Fe to be LIE.

She plays her audience like a fiddle. I think it's Te PolR to sell your own bath water for profit because you are not really selling anything concrete and pragmatical and the selling point came mostly from hype or an emotional connection. The whole online e-thot concept is entirely artificial and doesn't really have any technological reason behind it. Most of them sit in their room doing uninteresting things in their apartment for money, how is that in any way related to a concrete desire to work?

[kuno]

She plays her audience like a fiddle. I think it's Te PolR to sell your own bath water for profit because you are not really selling anything concrete and pragmatical and the selling point came mostly from hype or an emotional connection. The whole online e-thot concept is entirely artificial and doesn't really have any technological reason behind it. Most of them sit in their room doing uninteresting things in their apartment for money, how is that in any way related to a concrete desire to work?

Interesting points! And you typed her as EIE, which—judging by your reasoning—does seem to fit well. Perhaps it’s role Te that she uses. I do admire the way Belle Delphine knows how to appeal to her audience. And I know she works hard to develop her persona and aesthetic. I’ve heard some shady things about her, however, which is why I don’t know if I can admire her too much. I’d have to look into her more.

[lynx]

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[Still Alive]

Interesting points! And you typed her as EIE, which—judging by your reasoning—does seem to fit well. Perhaps it’s role Te that she uses. I do admire the way Belle Delphine knows how to appeal to her audience. And I know she works hard to develop her persona and aesthetic. I’ve heard some shady things about her, however, which is why I don’t know if I can admire her too much. I’d have to look into her more.

I would type her IEI nowadays. I had a different idea about that type back then.

[Rusal]

I haven't seen her for a while, so my impression of her might not be the most faithful to my memory but, if Beta, then Belle is more alike EIE-Fe. Her 'naughtiness' is due to the shock factor some people of the subtype enjoy.

[Sol]

Belle is more alike EIE-Fe

Base Fe supposes fiting to decent image in borders of cultural norms. Even being a whore, they would prefer to hold with honor and not as cheap clowns. There she plays even in incest.
LIE is same mad variant.

> Her 'naughtiness' is due to the shock factor some people of the subtype enjoy

subtypes is heretical nonsense. then nonsense progresses even more in how noobs use it on practice

[BrainlessSquid]

Obvious SEE,
she's identical to my SEE friend who had a romance like experience with my ILI teacher in college.

[Rusal]

Base Fe supposes fiting to decent image in borders of cultural norms. Even being a whore, they would prefer to hold with honor and not as cheap clowns. There she plays even in incest.
LIE is same mad variant.

> Her 'naughtiness' is due to the shock factor some people of the subtype enjoy

subtypes is heretical nonsense. then nonsense progresses even more in how noobs use it on practice

IDK, I'd say some ESEs I've met can be clownish, especially in an elementary level teacher kind of way. It can be compounded if some form of mental instability and medication are present. You know what I haven't met? Any rigorous study backing assertions that your methods for VIing people are valid, despite repeated claims.
You have a good one