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    My husband, my cousins, my mil and Abbie of course

    They are all different enneagram
    I like a few of the LSE here including @UDP but I haven’t met any in real life

    I guess I easily develop feelings of love
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beautiful sky View Post
    My husband, my cousins, my mil and Abbie of course

    They are all different enneagram
    I like a few of the LSE here including @UDP but I haven’t met any in real life

    I guess I easily develop feelings of love
    Heh easily develop feelings of love.
    Well I'm glad you're in a place now where that's the case

    I think we would get along alright in person though, yes.
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    only two, one non romantic (my grandfather whom I love very much)

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    Considering I've met one SLE in my life and I thought he was a fake douche in the vein of Mencia the answer is zero. Types I meet often: IEI, ILI, IEE, ILE. Types I meet a medium amount of:SEI, LSI, EII, EIE, ESI, LSE, LIE, LII. Types I meet rarely: SLI. SLE: literally one ever. Therefore SLE practically does not exist to me.

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    To answer the OP's question, I know several Dual couples who seem "perfect". There is a SEI/ILE couple I have known for years whose marriage was so interesting to me for it's perfect peaceful harmony (something that marks EVERY dual marriage couple I know, no matter the types). At the time I met them and developed my friendship with the SEI, and observed her marriage in wonder, I was in a bad marriage and it felt good to see that marriage did not always have to be a struggle.

    I know another SEI/ILE couple; the SEI was a roommate in college and we were in each others weddings (my first marriage). What a story for them. They dated, he served jail time (long story) and they married when he got out and he is a very successful businessman today and they have 4 children and they sail and he is quite adventurous. (Both the ILEs in those couples are adventurous and avid breadwinners, while the SEIs do an amazing job devotedly keeping the home fires burning, with their life totally centered on supporting their husband and their family, especially by doing the supportive grunge work, cooking, shopping, cleaning, laundry, errands. Like super thrifty grocery shopping - and just just being very thrifty home managers so hubby's money and time can be available for all his many his grandiose ideas or adventures. Both SEIs as well as my SEI friend here in a Supervision marriage with a LSE are super thrifty home-managers.

    My LSI brother is long-happily married to a vivacious EIE, and it is a most happy pairing. They also have 4 children, just like both previously-mentioned dual couples. It seems to me that the peaceful duality pairing makes it possible to take on more. I noticed that she is the one with the grand ideas (Let's do this and this to the house, or take the whole family on this vacation), and he works to makes them happen.

    Well I thought I knew more Dual couples but I can't think of any others. Maybe it is just the three. I also know at least three conflictor couples and just as the duals have much in common, no matter their types, so do the conflictor couples, no matter the type, and just as harmony and peace is in common for duals, conflict is marked for the conflictors!

    Oh yes! I am in the fourth Dual couple I know of! My 2nd marriage to my Dual is like my SEI friend's, the first couple mentioned above, whose marriage I so long admired, though we are IEE and SLI. For us it is marked peace and harmony, and we are able to accomplish many things together. I love that we can be productive doing and accomplishing things together, rather than like my first marriage, where I was always thinking about working on the marriage and always trying to make it better and figure it out. I spend no thought on such things now. Just on what we will do or accomplish together, and how or in what order we could best do it (I am the planner and project coordinator for our dual pair. My husband will have input at times, but as long as my plans sound reasonable to him he is more than happy to join me to make the things happen that we both want to have happen. Usually he agrees in how I prioritize things (I am always in the process of re-prioritizing as we juggle things) and he is happy to have someone else think through the boring organization of matters like what we should do first and by when. If at times we don't agree on something, we both present our cases and talk it out until we are both quite happy with the plan. So in the end we are always peaceable about what direction we are actually moving in. It's really a good thing.
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    Most who believe they are LIE or ENTJ are none of such. I have met 4 maybe 5 people who I type as LIE, all male. No perfection found but one of them comes close.

    Very strong Te, quick learner, happy go lucky, optimistic to a fault, always eager to do something and help someone, very popular as in very well liked but does not have strong people skills. Good leader if Te is the focus, but no way can he charm a crowd like EIE or SEE.

    He is now married to an ESI-Se and moved to China (he is Chinese) and last time I checked they were doing very well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Allegra View Post
    Most who believe they are LIE or ENTJ are none of such. I have met 4 maybe 5 people who I type as LIE, all male. No perfection found but one of them comes close.

    Very strong Te, quick learner, happy go lucky, optimistic to a fault, always eager to do something and help someone, very popular as in very well liked but does not have strong people skills. Good leader if Te is the focus, but no way can he charm a crowd like EIE or SEE.

    He is now married to an ESI-Se and moved to China (he is Chinese) and last time I checked they were doing very well.
    I know at least 22 people whom I type as LIE (I keep lists), and two are female. When I was younger and in school, I knew almost no LIE's. None, in fact, that I remember. But now that I own a small company and I'm dealing with the heads of other companies, I'm meeting LIE's in every other connection. They say that half the CEO's in the US are LIE, and I feel that that is about right. The percentages are probably highest in companies with 25 people, but that's just a guess.

    However, of all these LIE's, I only know three whom I think are married to duals. And those three differ from the rest in one very real way. They seem content, or satisfied with themselves. They sort of give me the same vibes that @FDG gives me.

    Most LIE's that I know, myself included, are "on edge" all the time. Seeking opportunities, striving, planning, fighting, maneuvering for advantage. The three dualized LIE's are still striving, but they seem to be more laid back and seem to be better at pacing themselves. They are not the most successful in absolute "accumulated money" terms, but they are all still in their 30's and are still doing very well.
    For some unknown reason, two of the LIE's have not started a family yet. The third LIE is ignoring his very young kids and letting his ESI wife deal with them. (This jibes with what I have read; that LIE's only get interested in their kids when the kids become teens. Which was definitely not true in my own case, but we're talking averages here.)
    The LIE's who are most successful, money-wise, are married to Ti-doms. Their personal lives are train wrecks, but they have money. They also don't seem to like spending much time at home. Lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Strange View Post
    I know at least 22 people whom I type as LIE (I keep lists), and two are female. When I was younger and in school, I knew almost no LIE's. None, in fact, that I remember. But now that I own a small company and I'm dealing with the heads of other companies, I'm meeting LIE's in every other connection. They say that half the CEO's in the US are LIE, and I feel that that is about right. The percentages are probably highest in companies with 25 people, but that's just a guess.

    However, of all these LIE's, I only know three whom I think are married to duals. And those three differ from the rest in one very real way. They seem content, or satisfied with themselves. They sort of give me the same vibes that @FDG gives me.

    Most LIE's that I know, myself included, are "on edge" all the time. Seeking opportunities, striving, planning, fighting, maneuvering for advantage. The three dualized LIE's are still striving, but they seem to be more laid back and seem to be better at pacing themselves. They are not the most successful in absolute "accumulated money" terms, but they are all still in their 30's and are still doing very well.
    For some unknown reason, two of the LIE's have not started a family yet. The third LIE is ignoring his very young kids and letting his ESI wife deal with them. (This jibes with what I have read; that LIE's only get interested in their kids when the kids become teens. Which was definitely not true in my own case, but we're talking averages here.)
    The LIE's who are most successful, money-wise, are married to Ti-doms. Their personal lives are train wrecks, but they have money. They also don't seem to like spending much time at home. Lol.
    Of the people I type as LIE, 3 are married but I only met one wife so I could type her. LIE 1 is the guy I mentioned in my previous post. I met him in grad school and his wife too. He is actually a bit on edge as you put it, competent, confident and happy, but always wanting more in life. I believe he is the Te-D sub type. Personally I find his personality close to ideal.

    LIE 2 I met in college and we were good friends. He is now married with 2 little kids and seems very involved with his kids. Strong Te but a very scattered and naive person, very poor people skills, and Si polr is obvious. I only see his wife’s pictures on FB but I can’t tell her type. He is less on edge and more content than LIE 1, but still happy and confident. Te-C sub type.

    LIE 3 is a coworker. He is older, in his 40’s, unhappily married with 2 teenagers. I don’t know his wife’s type since I have never met her or seen her pictures but based on his comments I think she is an Alpha SF. I don’t think he is content but he is at an age he is no longer on edge. I think he is the balanced sub type, N.

    The last one LIE 4 I met as an expedition tour guide. His interest involves the wildnerness and he is nowhere near wanting to settle down. Ni subtype I believe and an H. Strong people skills resembling IEI but also strong Te and Ti.

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    I would more so look at compatibility in enneagram and attitudinal psyche / psyche yoga to balance things out.

    Using one theory only is pretty ridiculous to be honest, in ascertaining how things work between people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UDP View Post
    I would more so look at compatibility in enneagram and attitudinal psyche / psyche yoga to balance things out.

    Using one theory only is pretty ridiculous to be honest, in ascertaining how things work between people.
    All you need is one perfect theory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UDP View Post
    I would more so look at compatibility in enneagram and attitudinal psyche / psyche yoga to balance things out.

    Using one theory only is pretty ridiculous to be honest, in ascertaining how things work between people.
    I can’t believe you’re talking about using psycho yoga to find someone, and calling any other thing ridiculous in one breath.

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    I don't know if I've met a perfect ESI or not. I'm still trying to decide what is "perfect".

    I have definitely met ESI's that I'd like to get to know better. And a few that I know well enough right now. Lol.

    ESI's seem to come in two subtypes and three enneagram flavors. The subtypes are the ESI-Fi, whom I think of as "nesters", since they are interested in building a nice, quiet home, and ESI-Se, whom I think of as the "sports model", since they are usually interested in sports.

    The enneagram types are the eccentric and unique e4's, the warrior e6's, and the calm, zen-like e9's.

    My experience with each type is:

    ESI-Fi e4 wanted to move in together, but the age difference scared me.
    ESI-Se e6 is just about perfect, but they are always rushing off to somewhere else. And there is an age difference between me and those two.
    ESI-Se or -Fi (hard to tell) e9 is how I would type my best friend from HS, and a guy I'm working with now. Both great guys, but they seem kind of bloodless. And I'm sx-first.

    I wish there were more research into this stuff. I just need to be able to pick the optimum from a catalog and be done with it, and then get on with my life.
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    Idk since I really just figured out my type 16 hours ago and have a lot to learn about using socionics to analyze people, but I am pretty sure my boyfriend is SEE 927 or something. I don't know that's compatible with 153, but 9s are compatible with everything lol that's their thing isn't it?
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    I've met a huge amount of duals, if my type is right. They're pretty much all over the board, though I never had a negative experience with any of them. Some of them have had subtype/enneagram/individual quirks that made me think they were IEEs even, though I can say I'm at an age where I'm still developing my tertiary function as are my peers so that may explain the confusion. I grew up with my brother who's my dual, raised under a dual beta couple. That was fairly interesting growing up.. I suppose I'm pretty lucky though

    I have met 3 duals who I'm very very fond of, and then others I almost instinctively dismiss. Really hit or miss, the ones that are obviously very mal-adapted in general I obviously avoid for reasons of saving my own time and effort. Maybe I shouldn't though

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    I've met a number of duals over the years, had some flings and such. Never had a dual I stuck with, though. And certainly, I've met no perfect dual.

    Most people it seems like aren't that interested in mental stuff, reading, etc., aren't really intellectual types. Can't really mesh.

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    Two, I think (with both main and subtype matching).

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    1. A guy in my art class at uni. Didn’t happen, although I believe we could have been a good match. He was like an SLE version of David Tennant, who I fancy.

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    There was also an SLE-H who I met on a night out. I still have him on social media and wonder if I’ll ever see him again. The moment I saw him in the bar, I was like oh god, why is that insanely good looking guy looking at me lol. Anyway we got chatting and I did like him.

    I think he perhaps reminded me of my brothers, on some level or something. I think coz one bro is SEE and one is LSI-H. SEE is 738 tritype and LSI is 639 tritype. SLE guy was 739. Or maybe it’s just that 739/946 have a good connection (my best friend in high school was this tritype).

    He had a dazzling smile, infectious laugh and dreamy eyes. And I felt like he was my long lost friend or something. More like we’d been separated at birth. And even though he was way younger than me and cooler. We’d grown up in the same area it turned out too.
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    I once met an ESE before knowing socionics. However, I found that IEIs are way more interesting than her. Although she seems to like me I was not very interested in her to be honest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CR400AF View Post
    I once met an ESE before knowing socionics. However, I found that IEIs are way more interesting than her. Although she seems to like me I was not very interested in her to be honest.
    ExE strengths have more to do with repelling the coldness settling around the world. In an age like this they especially shine. IEIs' interestingness is illusory. They're clever enough to pull SLEs by their noses, but if you lean into the illusion it dissolves. If you're LII you'd do better with an EIE if you want to be interested; their performances are sincere and they appreciate an audience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FreelancePoliceman View Post
    ExE strengths have more to do with repelling the coldness settling around the world. In an age like this they especially shine. IEIs' interestingness is illusory. They're clever enough to pull SLEs by their noses, but if you lean into the illusion it dissolves. If you're LII you'd do better with an EIE if you want to be interested; their performances are sincere and they appreciate an audience.
    Haven't found one yet. I find that most α and β intuitive are communicable. The ESE I met pretends to be interested in my theoretical worlds but she could not communicate with me essentially.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CR400AF View Post
    I once met an ESE before knowing socionics. However, I found that IEIs are way more interesting than her. Although she seems to like me I was not very interested in her to be honest.
    It’s hard to find a good one :/ I think occasionally it will be instant attraction but more than often they have to grow on you. Still, I think hopefully you can tell if there is at least potential or not. Or you can learn to spot potential.

    ESE and IEI can be similar on the surface. I get on very well with some (and admire them) -others are yuck. I personally find it hard to communicate with benefit partners. If they are particular tritypes it’s ok (the balanced ones- 369, 258 seem ok). I like to think of IEEs as my version of ESI friends when I’m sad that I don’t have ESI friends. I can be in awe of ESIs (their social grace, way with words, creativity, gentleness). Occasionally there will be an ESI who I have similar experiences or views to and we get on well. Often, I find their patterns of thinking a little narrow minded and hard to follow.

    I haven’t known many LII- I don’t really know what to say to them
    usually. I had a friend in the past but I felt like I needed him to reach out to me to feel comfortable in the friendship, rather than the other way round. LII can be helpful for IEI. But I find (on here) I tend to want to tell them all my emotions and feel a pressure to be on there level of smartness. It’s better for me to not try so hard I think lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bethany View Post
    It’s hard to find a good one :/ I think occasionally it will be instant attraction but more than often they have to grow on you. Still, I think hopefully you can tell if there is at least potential or not. Or you can learn to spot potential.

    ESE and IEI can be similar on the surface. I get on very well with some (and admire them) -others are yuck. I personally find it hard to communicate with benefit partners. If they are particular tritypes it’s ok (the balanced ones- 369, 258 seem ok). I like to think of IEEs as my version of ESI friends when I’m sad that I don’t have ESI friends. I can be in awe of ESIs (their social grace, way with words, creativity, gentleness). Occasionally there will be an ESI who I have similar experiences or views to and we get on well. Often, I find their patterns of thinking a little narrow minded and hard to follow.

    I haven’t known many LII- I don’t really know what to say to them
    usually. I had a friend in the past but I felt like I needed him to reach out to me to feel comfortable in the friendship, rather than the other way round. LII can be helpful for IEI. But I find (on here) I tend to want to tell them all my emotions and feel a pressure to be on there level of smartness. It’s better for me to not try so hard I think lol
    It's indeed not easy to find a good one, especially I hardly ever communicate with girls.

    I general, I currently prefers α/β intuits and I found that there are more common topics. It's too hard for me to find a common topic with sensors. When I met the ESE I found that she is learning pedagogy. So immediately I read several textbooks in that area and came up with several pedagogical theories. She pretended to be very interested in these theories but I soon find out that she understood almost nothing about them.

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    about 4...
    I don't get dualizing. Seems like nothing special tbh.

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