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    Quote Originally Posted by Raver View Post
    US/Canada/Aus/NZ do that, but Europe takes in tons of unskilled economic migrants.

    Here you are, in regards to immigrants draining the welfare system in Europe as I only mentioned welfare in Europe and not crime:

    Source: https://acdemocracy.org/muslim-immig...cial-benefits/

    So I looked in the "Our Mission" section of the website, which bombastically proclaims their organization's desire to defend "Judeo-Christian" culture, making them comically not neutral on the question of Muslim immigration.

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    We identify strategies used by radical regimes and movements to subvert Judeo-Christian based Western democratic systems, America’ Constitutional rights, and political and economic freedoms.
    Regardless, the article was written in 2015, so I checked around to see how well the refugees in Germany are integrating. It seems like of the 1.5 million, 400,000+ are already either working or in job training. The article doesn't say what % of that 1.5 million are children, elderly, or women raising children. These figures are, in fact, ahead of what experts predicted. Source: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-a8901161.html

    Regarding long-time Muslim immigrants to France: if integration is that bad (and I believe it is), then the problem could be structural, whereas the integration of long-time Muslims immigrants to Germany is significantly better, with unemployment matching the national average. Source: https://www.thelocal.de/20170824/int...rest-of-europe



    Regarding immigration to America, according to the CATO institute, which is a right wing / small-government think tank, legal and illegal immigrants receive less welfare benefits and commit fewer crimes than ordinary Americans.

    Source 1: https://www.cato.org/publications/co...-welfare-state.
    Source 2: https://www.cato.org/publications/im...egal-immigrant
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    @Raver

    Both legal as well as illegal immigrants to America use less welfare and commit fewer crimes. If I was going to be a dick about it, I'd point out how replacing ordinary Americans with illegals might actually make the country better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xerxe View Post
    Both legal as well as illegal immigrants to America use less welfare and commit fewer crimes.
    That's been debunked over and over: https://cis.org/Report/63-NonCitizen...lfare-Programs

    And they already committed a crime by coming here, hence 'illegals'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mfckrz View Post
    That's been debunked over and over: https://cis.org/Report/63-NonCitizen...lfare-Programs

    And they already committed a crime by coming here, hence 'illegals'.
    That debunking has itself been debunked. https://www.cato.org/blog/center-imm...ve-welfare-use

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    "let's compare the US to cuba, an actual planned economy.
    cuba is the poorest nation in south america, they are under a blockade by the US and can only trade with a handful of countries and have few natural resources of their own.
    the US is the richest nation in the world and trades with most of the world, and is spoiled with natural resources.


    Cuba has:

    - the highest lifespan in the western hemisphere, beating the USA.
    - Universal healthcare for all citizens
    - Universal education for all citizens, all citizens can read.
    - affordable housing for all citizens
    - government provided food and affordable food for all citizens
    - public transportation in major areas
    - guaranteed employment for all citizens
    - the highest standard of living of all south american countries
    - fought off a US invasion



    the USA has:

    - a lower lifespan than the poorest country in the western hemisphere, despite being the richest country in the western hemisphere.
    - 30 million people with no access to healthcare and tens of millions more with incomplete coverage and/or medical debts and bankruptcies.
    - a failing public education system being eaten away by for-profit education, roughly 1-3% of population illiterate.
    - a nationwide housing crisis
    - government food assistance because the private market can't meet people's basic needs
    - public transportation in new york city, a couple of other cities. also has a shitty bus system.
    - Unemployed people, 4 - 12% on average. (i.e. at any one time the US has more desperate people broken by it's terrible system than Cuba has people at all)
    - highest standard of living in western hemisphere for the top 25%, bottom 25% live worse than cubans. middle 50% increasingly worse off.
    - Invades other countries for oil in order to sustain it's economy, once lost a war to vietnam, an impoverished country in the jungle."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muddy View Post
    "let's compare…"
    Oh look, an extremely online tankie guy extolling Communism. Imagine that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mfckrz View Post
    Oh look, an extremely online tankie guy extolling Communism. Imagine that.
    You are free to respond with constructive criticism or ignore. You can fuck off however with shitpost replies made in bad faith.

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