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    Quote Originally Posted by xerxe View Post
    Imagine needing to live your whole life in a safe space to avoid getting triggered by black skin...
    Why do you keep eagerly equating isolation from further migrants, with deportation of already settled citizens by their ethnicity? Why do you assume that everyone who wants one also agrees with the other?

    This is why people strawman the pro-migration camp as being "pro-completely open borders" when not all of them claim they are. You can't even contemplate the benefits of a country deciding to bear a little less of the burdens of the world without it being obviously motivated by petty racial aestheticism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grendel View Post
    Why do you keep eagerly equating isolation from further migrants, with deportation of already settled citizens by their ethnicity? Why do you assume that everyone who wants one also agrees with the other?
    Because he likes to strawman and argue in bad faith? And because he himself is an ethnic with motivated reasoning?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mfckrz View Post
    Because he likes to strawman and argue in bad faith? And because he himself is an ethnic with motivated reasoning?

    I just saw this. You're a compulsive liar and factually illiterate. You latch on to facts in so far as they conform to your biases and have no business accusing other people of acting in bad faith. As for "ethnic," I'm not even sure what you classify as ethnic, but the fact that this is even on the table as a motivation is sufficient indicator of the sad, narrow prism of self-centeredness through which you judge your own and other people's actions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xerxe View Post
    I just saw this. You're a compulsive liar and factually illiterate. You latch on to facts in so far as they conform to your biases and have no business accusing other people of acting in bad faith. As for "ethnic," I'm not even sure what you classify as ethnic, but the fact that this is even on the table as a motivation is sufficient indicator of the sad, narrow prism of self-centeredness through which you judge your own and other people's actions.
    Ah, sounds like a nerve has been struck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mfckrz View Post
    Ah, sounds like a nerve has been struck.
    Yeah, well fuck you too, buddy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xerxe View Post
    Yeah, well fuck you too, buddy.
    Lol, it's fine. I don't expect people to debate rationally about issues like this. So an honest disclosure of bias is constructive—and you have been most exemplary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mfckrz View Post
    Lol, it's fine. I don't expect people to debate rationally about issues like this. So an honest disclosure of bias is constructive—and you have been most exemplary.
    K. I think I made all the points I need to make.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grendel View Post
    Why do you keep eagerly equating isolation from further migrants, with deportation of already settled citizens by their ethnicity? Why do you assume that everyone who wants one also agrees with the other?

    This is why people strawman the pro-migration camp as being "pro-completely open borders" when not all of them claim they are. You can't even contemplate the benefits of a country deciding to bear a little less of the burdens of the world without it being obviously motivated by petty racial aestheticism.
    I have had extensive contact with racists, and every single one of them has hated both immigrants and settled minorities; many are in my own extended family, giving me a thorough perspective into their reactions of contempt and consequent dehumanization of outgroups, sometimes going as far as comparing them to insects.

    There are cogent arguments for limiting immigration: a rise in the population of first world countries obviously contributes to global warming; emigration hurts the countries of origin by stripping them of talented people. But racist don't give a shit about these arguments because their emotional need to avoid outgroups is always grounded in despicable elitism. Even the economic argument that immigrant-driven population growth takes away jobs, which is wrong but has reasonable elements, is almost always a bullshit cover for their real motivations. Consider the fact that racist governments almost never have a problem with native-driven population growth; most would even like to increase it.

    The real upshot of living in a racist society is that the purity spiral never ends. The default attitude of elitism means that there is always someone else that's deemed inferior, someone else that needs to be trampled and made to know their place.
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