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    Quote Originally Posted by Singu View Post
    You advocate ethno-states, like Germany staying ethnically German and Italy staying ethnically Italian and so on. That's pretty far-right.

    Also right-wing/conservatives don't say that different races and ethnicities don't fundamentally get along, but they would say that perhaps immigrants should try to integrate and don't try to cause any trouble. Or they would advocate monoculturism but say multiethnicity is fine.
    My beliefs are ethno-states within Europe, Africa and Asia, but monoculturalism/multiethnicity within US, Canada, Australia, NZ. If that makes me far right on immigration with certain countries and center-right on immigration on other countries then I am fine with that distinction. It's important to note that I advocate social democratic (nordic model) economic policies, legalized weed and legalized prostitution that are seen as far leftist policies. If you want to label me as far right overall then that is your prerogative, but it only fits me on a few specific niche issues where as I lie elsewhere on the political spectrum in regards to other issues. Overall, I probably lean towards left-libertarian or centrist depending on one's viewpoint.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raver View Post
    I advocate legalized prostitution
    eh... secretly, so do a lot of Conservative men.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raver View Post
    My beliefs are ethno-states within Europe, Africa and Asia, but monoculturalism/multiethnicity within US, Canada, Australia, NZ. If that makes me far right on immigration with certain countries and center-right on immigration on other countries then I am fine with that distinction. It's important to note that I advocate social democratic (nordic model) economic policies, legalized weed and legalized prostitution that are seen as far leftist policies. If you want to label me as far right overall then that is your prerogative, but it only fits me on a few specific niche issues where as I lie elsewhere on the political spectrum in regards to other issues. Overall, I probably lean towards left-libertarian or centrist depending on one's viewpoint.
    Well there is one official ethno-state: North Korea. You want countries to become like North Korea?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Singu View Post
    Well there is one official ethno-state: North Korea. You want countries to become like North Korea?
    Nope, I want all European, Asian and African countries to be like Italy, Poland, Japan, South Korea, Hungary and Australia. Countries that are currently trying to control immigration and keep its ethnicity without officially calling itself an ethno-state.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raver View Post
    Nope, I want all European, Asian and African countries to be like Italy, Poland, Japan, South Korea, Hungary and Australia. Countries that are currently trying to control immigration and keep its ethnicity without officially calling itself an ethno-state.
    Yeah, Germany tried that once, and it failed.

    Also how is it even possible in principle? Surely, even if immigration is completely restricted, foreigners can still live in the country. And during that time, people might get into relationships or get married and have mixed-children. Or should the state forbid international marriages like North Korea does? What would happen to those children? Should they be deported or something?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Singu View Post
    Yeah, Germany tried that once, and it failed.

    Also how is it even possible in principle? Surely, even if immigration is completely restricted, foreigners can still live in the country. And during that time, people might get into relationships or get married and have mixed-children. Or should the state forbid international marriages like North Korea does? What would happen to those children? Should they be deported or something?
    Having a very small amount of foreigners get into relationships, getting married and having mixed children is not a big deal at all at any country.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raver View Post
    Having a very small amount of foreigners get into relationships, getting married and having mixed children is not a big deal at all at any country.
    But your view is that different races and ethnicities don't fundamentally get along, so if they get attacked or harassed by the majority, then it's their own fault for merely existing.

    See where I'm going with this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Singu View Post
    Well there is one official ethno-state: North Korea. You want countries to become like North Korea?
    >ethnic homogeneity magically turns countries into drugged-up Juche socialist hellholes

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    Quote Originally Posted by Singu View Post
    Well there is one official ethno-state: North Korea. You want countries to become like North Korea?
    I think he just means that he wants other countries to keep the demographics that they have, not that he wants ethnic cleansing. It's true that places like Germany haven't historically been places that take in a lot of immigrants like America has and that it doesn't seem like the cultures and economies of those countries can handle large amounts of new ethnic groups coming in and not assimilating like certain regions of American can. However, aside from Germans just taking all the refugees and putting them in the wrong places, I don't think there needs to be any policies to actively ban new groups from coming in. Refugees actually don't tend to like Germany and countries like that with very narrow and well-defined cultures because they just thought they'd move to Germany, get a cute little German house in the Alps with a German car, and otherwise live exactly the same way they would've in their home country under better conditions, which is not true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Singu View Post
    Well there is one official ethno-state: North Korea. You want countries to become like North Korea?
    Two: Israel

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