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    Quote Originally Posted by Raver View Post
    I can say the same thing about you, that you're being used like a fodder and a propagandist tool for the cause of the far left. Instead of incorrectly thinking that I'm supporting the far right directly or indirectly, maybe we should reach common ground in our disdain for neoliberal/neoconservative politicians and corporations. Both the far-right and the far-left have emerged as symptoms of neoliberal/neoconservative politicians and corporations via their social policies that serve to further business interests to line their pockets. What they want is each political side to have their own personal boogeyman, the left with the far right and the right with the far left so attention is drawn away from them and directed towards pawns instead so they can continue to profit and continue with their plans without too much criticism directed towards them.
    Your views are no different than the far-rights', because you believe that people of different races and ethnicities inherently don't get along, so you believe that immigration should be restricted if not outright abolished. This view basically justifies attacks and harassments of minorities, because it's their fault for merely existing and being at the wrong place at the wrong time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alonzo View Post
    lol You mean the family that won't even let you go outside to burn in the sun?

    On a personal note, @Raver, your support of prepubescent, identity fucked, emo nutters like the above who—incidentally, its mother must've gotten better at ridding its Day of the Week panties of the dagger like, encrusted skid marks partly responsible for its angsty, "edgy" temperament seeing as how it's become more vocal as of late—to refer to themselves as "Neo-Nazis," doesn't speak well of you. Lots of Uncle Tom/Tio Tomas vibes going on with you that strike me as particularly self-loathing and pathetic.

    This is your truth >

    That person ain't "white"; furthermore, I've seen you and at best, you are off-white/white approximate, but still easily mistaken for "the help" or some migrant day worker. I don't get people who support belief systems and ideologies that actively and aggressively work against the interests of them and their own people. A lot of your distant cousins are at the US Southern Border, as we speak, being treated like utter shit by racist, bigoted, prejudiced right wing nutjobs no different in thought than run away abortions like @Vizany. If I'm being completely honest, a significant part of the "hostility" you've received from me, stems from the idea that a clear, multi-ethnic person of color would prostrate himself in front of those that would see him disenfranchised or dead.
    How did you see my picture? I never posted it on the forum, lol. Unless you count that time when I went to a meet up 6 years ago and my picture was posted by someone else, but it was eventually removed.

    Anyways, if you went through the trouble of looking for my ancestry that I posted on this site then you might as well post the up to date information:



    So basically I am 68% European, 23% Native American, 7% African, 2% West Asian

    I don't think I've ever claimed to be "white" in this forum lol, I've said many times that I'm mixed race and I've never hidden it. I know very well if I went to the stormfront forums and claimed I was white on these results, that they would laugh and mock me regardless of my physical appearance, but I never sought to be a part of people with those kind of views. I've read the stormfront forums out of curiosity enough to know that I would be treated like any other colored person for being a mongrel so you're pretty much preaching to the choir here.

    I have no clue why you keep mentioning @Vizany to me, maybe his posts triggered you. He's a teenager and his views will change as he grows older so you constantly attacking him directly is not cool at all. What is your ethnicity though @Alonzo? You've mentioned before you are 3/4 ethnically Swedish, 1/4 of something else? But then you mentioned you were half viking/half mandingo? Just be completely open and say it. I never actually saw your picture, but I heard from others that you looked African when you posted your pic and quickly took it down? Just say what you are already, are you a quadroon? a mulatto? something else? There is no shame in hiding it, embrace your mixed race heritage like I have instead of beating around the bush.

    Anyways, lets talk about my views on immigration in US/Canada/Australia/NZ because it affects me directly as a Canadian. My immigration views on these countries are pretty much center right conservative. I am against mass immigration/open borders into these countries because I believe if we let in too many people, it will put a drain on our infrastructure and our quality of life. I do believe that letting in too many immigrants can worsen our 1st world standard of living, but letting in the right number of immigrants won't. Ethnicity has nothing to do with it for these countries, it's about sheer number of people entering the country that is both legal and illegal.

    The same goes for the US as well, it's about receiving the right amount of legal immigrants so population in Canada and US does not get too high and overwhelm the infrastructure in our cities and deteriorate our standard of living like what is happening in California right now due to its homeless epidemic. So with the US, it's mostly about preventing illegal immigration and maintaining reasonable legal immigration levels. With Canada, it's similar, but more of an emphasis on maintaining reduced legal immigration numbers and less on illegal immigration since we have much less illegal immigration.

    Quote Originally Posted by Singu View Post
    Your views are no different than the far-rights', because you believe that people of different races and ethnicities inherently don't get along, so you believe that immigration should be restricted if not outright abolished. This view basically justifies attacks and harassments of minorities, because it's their fault for merely existing and being at the wrong place at the wrong time.
    My center right conservative immigration views in the country I live in that I just mentioned to Alonzo are far right? Maybe to the far left that are open borders/mass immigration, but my views on reducing immigration in my country are quite common:

    https://globalnews.ca/news/5397306/c...igration-poll/

    Sixty-three per cent of respondents to a recent Leger poll said the government should prioritize limiting immigration levels because the country might be reaching a limit in its ability to integrate them.

    Just 37 per cent said the priority should be on growing immigration to meet the demands of Canada’s expanding economy.
    I guess 63% of my country is far right for wanting to reduce immigration and keep it at controlled levels. The only people that promote mass immigration/open borders are far leftists to virtue signal about how self-righteous they are and neoliberal and neoconservative corporatists that want a steady flow of cheap labor to profit from.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raver View Post
    I have no clue why you keep mentioning @Vizany to me, maybe his posts triggered you. He's a teenager and his views will change as he grows older so you constantly attacking him directly is not cool at all. What is your ethnicity though @Alonzo? You've mentioned before you are 3/4 ethnically Swedish, 1/4 of something else? But then you mentioned you were half viking/half mandingo? Just be completely open and say it. I never actually saw your picture, but I heard from others that you looked African when you posted your pic and quickly took it down? Just say what you are already, are you a quadroon? a mulatto? something else? There is no shame in hiding it, embrace your mixed race heritage like I have instead of beating around the bush.
    1.) How the fuck do you know that "it" will change? I don't give a fuck about "it" being a teenager--there are plenty of non-trash teenagers and so that excuse won't cut it; I'm only tepidly interested in what "it" does now, and for right now, it's a cephalic dumpster baby and will be regarded as such.

    2.) Whatever cotton-brained fuckwits told you that I've posted my pic on here before are even more dimwitted than you because I'd never do that. I talk way too much shit to be that stupid. lol But I did post a pic of my father to be VI'd, who was half ethnic Swede/half Brazilian (Cafuzo). My mother is an ethnic Scandinavian and Swedish national. Why the fuck would I feel the need to beat around the bush? In multiple places, I've said that I'm mixed race, proudly so. And for those capable of reading, I said that I was a Viking-Mandingo hybrid, which does not necessarily denote a half and half mixture. The only thing you need to know is that I'm big, blonde, blue and bronzed and still feel compelled to fight for people I don't phenotypically resemble, though we are genetically connected. Unlike you, I don't twerk for Neo-Nazis and those who wouldn't let my ass into the country if they had their way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raver View Post
    My center right conservative immigration views in the country I live in that I just mentioned to Alonzo are far right? Maybe to the far left that are open borders/mass immigration, but my views on reducing immigration in my country are quite common:

    https://globalnews.ca/news/5397306/c...igration-poll/

    I guess 63% of my country is far right for wanting to reduce immigration and keep it at controlled levels. The only people that promote mass immigration/open borders are far leftists to virtue signal about how self-righteous they are and neoliberal and neoconservative corporatists that want a steady flow of cheap labor to profit from.
    You advocate ethno-states, like Germany staying ethnically German and Italy staying ethnically Italian and so on. That's pretty far-right.

    Also right-wing/conservatives don't say that different races and ethnicities don't fundamentally get along, but they would say that perhaps immigrants should try to integrate and don't try to cause any trouble. Or they would advocate monoculturism but say multiethnicity is fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Singu View Post
    You advocate ethno-states, like Germany staying ethnically German and Italy staying ethnically Italian and so on. That's pretty far-right.

    Also right-wing/conservatives don't say that different races and ethnicities don't fundamentally get along, but they would say that perhaps immigrants should try to integrate and don't try to cause any trouble. Or they would advocate monoculturism but say multiethnicity is fine.
    My beliefs are ethno-states within Europe, Africa and Asia, but monoculturalism/multiethnicity within US, Canada, Australia, NZ. If that makes me far right on immigration with certain countries and center-right on immigration on other countries then I am fine with that distinction. It's important to note that I advocate social democratic (nordic model) economic policies, legalized weed and legalized prostitution that are seen as far leftist policies. If you want to label me as far right overall then that is your prerogative, but it only fits me on a few specific niche issues where as I lie elsewhere on the political spectrum in regards to other issues. Overall, I probably lean towards left-libertarian or centrist depending on one's viewpoint.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raver View Post
    I advocate legalized prostitution
    eh... secretly, so do a lot of Conservative men.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raver View Post
    My beliefs are ethno-states within Europe, Africa and Asia, but monoculturalism/multiethnicity within US, Canada, Australia, NZ. If that makes me far right on immigration with certain countries and center-right on immigration on other countries then I am fine with that distinction. It's important to note that I advocate social democratic (nordic model) economic policies, legalized weed and legalized prostitution that are seen as far leftist policies. If you want to label me as far right overall then that is your prerogative, but it only fits me on a few specific niche issues where as I lie elsewhere on the political spectrum in regards to other issues. Overall, I probably lean towards left-libertarian or centrist depending on one's viewpoint.
    Well there is one official ethno-state: North Korea. You want countries to become like North Korea?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Singu View Post
    Well there is one official ethno-state: North Korea. You want countries to become like North Korea?
    Nope, I want all European, Asian and African countries to be like Italy, Poland, Japan, South Korea, Hungary and Australia. Countries that are currently trying to control immigration and keep its ethnicity without officially calling itself an ethno-state.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raver View Post
    Nope, I want all European, Asian and African countries to be like Italy, Poland, Japan, South Korea, Hungary and Australia. Countries that are currently trying to control immigration and keep its ethnicity without officially calling itself an ethno-state.
    Yeah, Germany tried that once, and it failed.

    Also how is it even possible in principle? Surely, even if immigration is completely restricted, foreigners can still live in the country. And during that time, people might get into relationships or get married and have mixed-children. Or should the state forbid international marriages like North Korea does? What would happen to those children? Should they be deported or something?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Singu View Post
    Well there is one official ethno-state: North Korea. You want countries to become like North Korea?
    >ethnic homogeneity magically turns countries into drugged-up Juche socialist hellholes

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    Quote Originally Posted by Singu View Post
    Well there is one official ethno-state: North Korea. You want countries to become like North Korea?
    I think he just means that he wants other countries to keep the demographics that they have, not that he wants ethnic cleansing. It's true that places like Germany haven't historically been places that take in a lot of immigrants like America has and that it doesn't seem like the cultures and economies of those countries can handle large amounts of new ethnic groups coming in and not assimilating like certain regions of American can. However, aside from Germans just taking all the refugees and putting them in the wrong places, I don't think there needs to be any policies to actively ban new groups from coming in. Refugees actually don't tend to like Germany and countries like that with very narrow and well-defined cultures because they just thought they'd move to Germany, get a cute little German house in the Alps with a German car, and otherwise live exactly the same way they would've in their home country under better conditions, which is not true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Singu View Post
    Well there is one official ethno-state: North Korea. You want countries to become like North Korea?
    Two: Israel

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