Quote Originally Posted by Alonzo View Post
1.) lol Ummm, no. I know the difference between valued and subdued functions; but if you knew the difference between "forbid" and more appropriate words like subdue/limit/suppress, we wouldn't be having this conversation.

2.) Nowhere did I say or imply that Se plays the same role in ESEs as it does in SEEs; I've actually gone out of my way to mention ESE's demonstrative Se usage, which usually occurs under niche, specific circumstances befitting its IE. I'm not the one here who doesn't know how to properly convey nuance.
1) they're not called subdued, they're called unvalued. forbid indicates how something can't happen because of a threshold, which is the case here.

2) which is why you agreed on the comment about how a SEE behavior was characteristic of ESEs, makes sense.