Democratic Presidential Debate

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It concerns the cultural-evolutionary emergence of modern Europeans (of which we could include White Americans). It wasn't specific to current immigration trends in Europe.

No, it was part of a broader conversation about migration to Europe; saying that you aren't taking a side in that conversation is a lie. More importantly, who gives a fuck? Third parties are allowed to express opinions about things that don't directly concern them; whether or not an opinion has value is based on its logical and factual truth.

Political agitation to reward one's preferred ethnic bloc constitutes identity politics, whatever form that happens to take—segregation, reparations, or what have you.

The original discussion was about assimilation vs. segregation. You said that identity politics stands in the way of creating a melting pot, so I'll reiterate: the avowed policy, by the left, of removing institutional barriers is geared towards the creation of a melting pot. That is all.

Post-1965 immigration has been predominantly non-European. Without it, the US would still be 75% non-Hispanic White:



As for total %-foreign born, this is where we're at and where we're projected to go:

No, because the population is still 60% White, meaning that there has been less transformation as a result of this migrant wave. Even so: 60%, 45%, 1%, it doesn't matter -- the only important question is whether immigration is good or bad; posting "scary" projections as though the evils of immigration were self-evident isn't very convincing.

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No, it was part of a broader conversation about migration to Europe; saying that you aren't taking a side in that conversation is a lie.

Was a totally different conversation thread about biological-cultural coevolution.

More importantly, who gives a fuck? Third parties are allowed to express opinions about things that don't directly concern them; whether or not an opinion has value is based on its logical and factual truth.

And opinions are suspect—especially those about places in which those opining do not live.

The original discussion was about assimilation vs. segregation. You said that identity politics stands in the way of creating a melting pot, so I'll reiterate: the avowed policy, by the left, of removing institutional barriers is geared towards the creation of a melting pot. That is all.

It's all identity politics just the same.

No, because the population is still 60% White, meaning that there has been less transformation as a result of this migrant wave. Even so: 60%, 45%, 1%, it doesn't matter -- the only important question is whether immigration is good or bad; posting "scary" projections as though the evils of immigration were self-evident isn't very convincing.

Comparison was between %-foreign born, then and now. Stay on topic, bud.

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Was a totally different conversation thread about biological-cultural coevolution.

And opinions are suspect—especially those about places in which those opining do not live.

Then please keep that in mind the next time you're tempted to give your opinion on 99.9999...% of all other topics.

It's all identity politics just the same.

No it isn't.

Comparison was between %-foreign born, then and now. Stay on topic, bud.

%-foreign born was higher then.
%-foreign born + descendant was much higher then.

Hope that clears it up.