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    Quote Originally Posted by xerxe View Post
    So who gets to decide what % genetic difference is considered minor -- is it you?? And why shouldn't some tiny hamlet in France preserve its genetic independence from the rest of French society?
    Nobody can really make such arbitrary judgements at an individual level. All that can be done in this day and age is allow countries the choice to become nationalist or globalist/multicultural depending on their goals and outlook. So basically the choices are open borders/mass immigration, controlled immigration or closed borders.

    Then whatever happens within those nations will be off the hands of the government. However, all multiculturalism will do is result in either balkanization or race mixture or both. Nationalism offers an alternative option for nations that choose to go a route that is opposed to open borders/mass immigration. Opting for either controlled immigration or closed borders.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raver View Post
    Nobody can really make such arbitrary judgements at an individual level. All that can be done in this day and age is allow countries the choice to become nationalist or globalist/multicultural depending on their goals and outlook. So basically the choices are open borders/ mass immigration, controlled immigration or closed borders.

    Then whatever happens within those nations will be off the hands of the government. However, all multiculturalism will do is result in either balkanization like in South Africa or race mixture like in Latin America. Nationalism offers an alternative option for nations that choose to go that route.
    That doesn't answer my question. When a nation goes nationalist, who gets to decide what % genetic difference is considered minor?

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    Quote Originally Posted by xerxe View Post
    That doesn't answer my question. When a nation goes nationalist, who gets to decide what % genetic difference is considered minor?
    All nationalism entails in the definition I am using is either controlled immigration from various parts of the world or closed borders. When it comes to what people do within their nation for relationships then it doesn't matter. Just like it didn't matter prior to the 21st century and the 20th century for the most part. So the % genetic difference never gets decided by anyone because there is no need for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raver View Post
    All nationalism entails in the definition I am using is either controlled immigration from various parts of the world or closed borders. When it comes to what people do within their nation for relationships then it doesn't matter. Just like it didn't matter prior to the 21st century and the 20th century for the most part. So the % genetic difference never gets decided by anyone because there is no need for it.
    But there is a need to define "minor" if we're going down the path of controlling which populations are allowed to intermix based on their degree of genetic similarity.

    If you're saying that nations can do whatever they want within their own borders, you're making the implicit assumption that genetic differences within nations are "minor." If geographical proximity is the main indicator of genetic commonality then this assumption is false: the French region of Alsace has more in common with the Rhineland than it does with Acquitaine, which has more in common with Spain.

    The second issue is that you don't seem to mind the dilution of local populations that have different genetics from the mainstream and each other. Yet the fact that these differences are only minor is entirely your idea; to any xenophobes living in some tiny hamlet, you're a chauvinistic authoritarian who supports a political project designed to dilute their culture.

    Whether you know it or not, you've crafted a definition of "minor" specifically to include or exclude people according to your personal tastes.
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