LIIs/INTjs who are social and well-liked

[perpetuus]

Despite him being a clueless fuckwit most of the time, I know one who seems to be well liked everywhere he goes. It's inexplicable. Women seem oddly charmed by him too. Sometimes the right balance of awkwardness and charm goes a long way.

[Adam Strange]

Despite him being a clueless fuckwit most of the time, I know one who seems to be well liked everywhere he goes. It's inexplicable. Women seem oddly charmed by him too. Sometimes the right balance of awkwardness and charm goes a long way.

Socionics can explain the otherwise inexplicable. Let me say that only certain types of women are charmed by your friend.

I work with this LII analyst. He's overweight, bald on top, has a scraggly red beard and dresses like he grudgingly put clothes on when he got out of bed but they spent the last few days rolled in a ball on the floor. I like him, but an IEE described him as "revolting".

The LII works with this female SLI intern who is a clone to my ex-wife. She is tall, thin, intelligent, careful, a great dresser, graceful in her movements, and except for her Iranian black hair instead of my ex-wife's Prussian red hair, they could be twins. They could be clones. However, the Iranian SLI truly is my socionics Supervisor, and unlike my ex-wife, she can't hide the fact that she has a barely concealed contempt for my talents, despite that fact that I like her and I wish she liked me, even a little bit. Like, above negative.

Her not liking me bothers me in a subtle way. Not that I want to get close to her or anything, but her reaction to me is more like the normally-described behavior of Supervisors toward their Supervisees, rather than the reaction my ex had to me. It would be nice if she liked me more, and then I could somehow resolve the fact that my ex left the marriage (or maybe revisiting that place wouldn't resolve anything, IDK), but that seems to be an unrealistic wish.

So it was with some amazement that I saw this beautiful, classy, emotionally remote SLI really take to the disheveled LII. He grabbed a giant bouncing ball and sat on it next to her desk to discuss a project with her, and she absolutely came alive. She smiled at him (she has never smiled at me), she spoke to him in an animated, interested way, she touched his arm, and in general looked like she was dying to be asked out on a date. He, in turn, seemed pleasantly, stupidly oblivious to her attentions.

After my initial shock, I looked up their ITR. He is her Benefactor, and if Benefit feels to her the way it feels to me, then every time she sees the LII, she is feeling like it is Christmas morning and there are presents to unwrap. In addition to the fact that they are erotically compatible.

[Rebelondeck]

..........I work with this LII analyst. He's overweight, bald on top, has a scraggly red beard and dresses like he grudgingly put clothes on when he got out of bed but they spent the last few days rolled in a ball on the floor. I like him, but an IEE described him as "revolting".........

I haven't met professional LIIs who could be described as scraggy although I did meet one with an actual body odour condition that could water ones eyes by mid-afternoon. They usually seem to appear well-kept but nondescript; if they were fashionable, it was by accident but none were obese or revolting. The look that most LIIs seem to prefer is invisibility and what you describe wouldn't achieve that; now, many ILIs seem to like a counter-culture appearance.........

a.k.a. I/O

[Adam Strange]

I haven't met professional LIIs who could be described as scraggy although I did meet one with an actual body odour condition that could water ones eyes by mid-afternoon. They usually seem to appear well-kept but nondescript; if they were fashionable, it was by accident but none were obese or revolting. The look that most LIIs seem to prefer is invisibility and what you describe wouldn't achieve that; now, many ILIs seem to like a counter-culture appearance.........

a.k.a. I/O

I didn't say I thought he was obese or revolting, just that he was overweight and an IEE thought he was revolting. I'll PM to you a picture of him standing next to an LIE, and you can decide for yourself.
I've worked with this guy for six years and both he and I are sure that he's an LII. We've talked about it at length and he's taken tests which indicated he is LII. He even gave his GF a test and she got ESE. Then she left him.

[xerx]

One thing to watch out for is whether someone has a personality or cognitive disorder. I worked with a guy who was extremely unprofessional and violated everyone's personal space pretty much by default. He lacked all self-awareness when it came to how others saw him, but he also interjected himself into everyone else's business because of high extroversion.

My first thought was that he was a complete POS. Then I slowly realized that he probably had some kind of autistic disorder and had a hard time processing other people's perspectives.

I did eventually figure out his socionics type: he was my identical. It did seem like he cared about behaving professionally, but because of his autistic disorder never figured out other people's unspoken reactions towards what he was doing.