What animes have LIE's as the protagonist?

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Asking which anime's have LIE's as the antagonists would be a much easier question to answer

Well, I hate to say it but us Gamma's do make for some darn good villains/anti-heroes. Hopefully somebody will pen a story that reverses this unfortunate fact and brings to the fore the qualities that are most epic and heroic about my quadra. All it takes is one famous/infamous story that the general public learns of somehow to affect a major cultural shift.

For instance, people used to name their girls "Lolita" with some frequency. They don't do that anymore. Why? That one pervert and that book he wrote. That's it really. Just one story told by some random mofo and boom, nobody dares use that name for their offspring again. Even I wouldn't, because defiance for defiance's sake feels a bit too much like I'm imitating Lucifer...

[ContractedCriminalboy]

Well, I hate to say it but us Gamma's do make for some darn good villains/anti-heroes. Hopefully somebody will pen a story that reverses this unfortunate fact and brings to the fore the qualities that are most epic and heroic about my quadra. All it takes is one famous/infamous story that the general public learns of somehow to affect a major cultural shift.

For instance, people used to name their girls "Lolita" with some frequency. They don't do that anymore. Why? That one pervert and that book he wrote. That's it really. Just one story told by some random mofo and boom, nobody dares use that name for their offspring again. Even I wouldn't, because defiance for defiance's sake feels a bit too much like I'm imitating Lucifer...

Gamma SFs tend to be heroes quite often, especially in anime, it's primarily the NTs that are made into villains (though SEE's seem to be very common as both heroes and villains). I'd say LIE's tend to rival EIE's for the major super villain/big baddie type characters, at least the most interesting one's that immediately come to mind when you think of a good villain (something about creative Ni and activating Se makes one want to rule the world/leave their mark in a story). And when I think antihero, I think Beta STs. On a side note, does anyone ever see Delta STs or Alpha SFs as major villains? Like minor sure, especially for LSE's but major? Can't think of any at all. An SEI for a major antagonist just sounds wrong.

On a further side note, Lolita is an amazing novel, cried real baby tears at that ending. Plus the prose is simply beautiful, excluding the story.

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On a further side note, Lolita is an amazing novel, cried real baby tears at that ending. Plus the prose is simply beautiful, excluding the story.

Oh I intend to read it sometime. Kinda thinking of becoming a reviewer of fiction recently. Key part of that is enduring trash/shit so that others don't have to. So, if anyone has an idea as to what fiction of any type would prompt me to the deliver a most entertaining critical or enraged rant in your eyes let me know. Because, again, I'm willing to suffer so that you, random strangers (here and everywhere), don't have to. Plus hey, who knows, maybe I make a viral something and become famous enough to finally attain "fuck you" money .

[ContractedCriminalboy]

Oh I intend to read it sometime. Kinda thinking of becoming a reviewer of fiction recently. Key part of that is enduring trash/shit so that others don't have to. So, if anyone has an idea as to what fiction of any type would prompt me to the deliver a most entertaining critical or enraged rant in your eyes let me know. Because, again, I'm willing to suffer so that you, random strangers (here and everywhere), don't have to. Plus hey, who knows, maybe I make a viral something and become famous enough to finally attain "fuck you" money .

Then best prepare yourself for some 50 Shades of Gray because there certainly is no better book for that purpose. Also a looot of popular teen fiction. Enduring terrible films or games for review is one thing but books? I gave my hats off to you.

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Then best prepare yourself for some 50 Shades of Gray because there certainly is no better book for that purpose. Also a looot of popular teen fiction. Enduring terrible films or games for review is one thing but books? I gave my hats off to you.

Terrible films are a passive experience (boring thing I can walk away from). Terrible games are a frustrating experience (frustrating thing I can also just walk away from). TV series are a kind of middle ground between those in my eyes. Books, however, for some reason, are a line for me. Probably because I know full good and well how important they are. The first stories were just words. Eventually, those words got so darn "good" that someone felt the need to find a way to preserve those words beyond the time spent with the speaker of them, perhaps even beyond their death. Hence, writing.

The written word, then, is the seed. It is the genesis of an enduring culture and, thus, a true civilization as most anyone with half a brain would conceive of one. If a civilization neglects writing, it will die an inglorious death. I mean, imagine a culture/civilization without writing (i.e. an alphabet/cuneiform/hieroglyphs/etc) that endured to the modern era. It... kinda didn't. If it did, well, that's because it never drew the attention of those true civilizations to itself. Even then, it's probably known to them, but just showing up and conquering some rando tribe of stick and rock using hunters is just being a dick to them at their level of advancement (which is trying to find ways around the "rocket equation" so that colonizing other planets will become accessible to the average working class schmuck).

Also, never gonna review smut (that is but pure smut, the weaboo anime nerd in me is compelled to mention that most all well known/popular VN's contain about 20 minutes of smut and 50+ hours of plot, world building, and character development for some God only knows reason). It's a sin after all and well, let's be honest here, the "great" pornographers of the modern era are oh so very, very poor at their craft. Most of them think that a hot girl flashing her... well y'know, is just the best so just have her do that as much as possible. Fools can't even approach the levels the real life Casanova reached. For him, sex was great and all, but to simply have a conversation with a beautiful woman was pretty much the same as bedding her in his eyes. A lesson to be learned there I'd think for those men who thirst for a beautiful woman in their bed .

Try and get at her character, who she is as a person. Beauty, after all, can be a curse if you really think on that. To be a perfect 10 hottie, now that I think on it, may be to experience the curse of Midas from a newfound angle...

[Dalek Caan]

Maybe Picard from Star Trek? I don't know how well-written the character is because I haven't seen that much of TNG, but his ethical speeches, relatively easy-going nature, and acceptance of diversity reminds me of ENTjs. I know people type him LII and ESI, but he's way too conceptual for ESI and not very Ti rules and logic and or very Alpha either.

Star Trek is kind of cool. It seems to take different personality archetypes and shows how positive they can be, even possible Gamma types. I think TNG is essentially Te/Fi valuing and Star Trek: The Original Series is Ti/Fe valuing by the way.

[Investigator]

Well, I hate to say it but us Gamma's do make for some darn good villains/anti-heroes. Hopefully somebody will pen a story that reverses this unfortunate fact and brings to the fore the qualities that are most epic and heroic about my quadra. All it takes is one famous/infamous story that the general public learns of somehow to affect a major cultural shift.

For instance, people used to name their girls "Lolita" with some frequency. They don't do that anymore. Why? That one pervert and that book he wrote. That's it really. Just one story told by some random mofo and boom, nobody dares use that name for their offspring again. Even I wouldn't, because defiance for defiance's sake feels a bit too much like I'm imitating Lucifer...

In authors’ defence, Gammas are ruthless and goal-oriented. Betas are pretty ruthless and goal-oriented too, but Betas are very good at getting people to join their side and care about people joining their side; they like and need this validation for their movement. Gammas on the other hand will not go through the process of gathering forces unless it is absolutely necessary. Even when it is necessary, we believe our internal values (Fi) trump valuations of societal values (Fe) and rules (Ti) so we can be a bit underhanded. Not because we are evil, but because we truly believe the end (Fi) justifies our pragmatic means (Te). We might move our forces around like pawns (ESFp using their Fe to gain support or Gamma NT seeing the forces as chess pieces) , betray allies when they are no longer useful (ISFj: “They were never with us, so why fake sentiments when there is a bigger goal at hand”), break the law or use loopholes to get the upperhand (Gamma NT understand society’s rules (though don’t care about them) and use that to our advantage), etc. It is very hard to paint this approach to life in a good light.

A good Gamma leader, though pragmatically uses their forces, actually cares about them. The only reason they would use forces in a cold manner is because they believe that this way will lead to less of them (their forces) getting hurt (Ni-Te planning). A good Gamma leader will be volitional (Se), but will have genuine concern for their people’s worries and not forget the values they championed to get their title (Fi). This leader will rarely ever be rovolted against as most revolutions are due to strict adherences “bad” societal rules (Ti, “unfair” hierarchies). If there is a revolt on the account of cold methods: 1. It would be most likely be small due to strong loyalty because they (Gamma leaders) don’t “brainwash” their followers (Fe), but just put our ideas out there (Te) and followers came naturally. 2. Those same cool methods will destroy any spark of a revolution.

A good example of this type of leader is Otto Van Bismarck, the Iron Chancellor of Germany and an ENTj.

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Ah, a fellow fan of the Iron Chancellor @Investigator. Too bad nobody heeded his warnings about that damned fool thing in the Balkans, especially that idiot Kaiser Wilhelm II. I'd bet money he was an Alpha. Firing from the hip on that one so I'm also curious to see if I'm calling it on a lark .

Having just said that I think I heard of an anime that was basically Fantasy WWI a few months back. Isekai trash I believe but if it followed through on that basic concept despite that negative point I'd give it a chance.

[Simo]

Well, I hate to say it but us Gamma's do make for some darn good villains/anti-heroes.

Sometimes villains/anti-heroes are way cooler than the heroes themselves

[Accipiter]

I have a hard time telling apart LIE inventors from ILEs, like Senku, or Mei Hatsume.

You get this vibe from them that they're very focused on "building their brand" but I don't know if that's enough.

[The Reality Denialist]

I have a hard time telling apart LIE inventors from ILEs

Esay: LIE's are seeking for science in utilization perspective. ILE's just do it for discovery. I think seeing science as a tool to get something out of it seems like a blasphemy at first glance but it helps to discover new things.