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    Quote Originally Posted by Smilex View Post
    Lol, that's not humility. That's what I say when I'm using the goodness of another guy to point out that I'm the benchmark of great so that other guy must be pretty super for being better.
    How is it not the same for Trump in acknowledging the greatness of his opponent?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beautiful sky View Post
    How is it not the same for Trump in acknowledging the greatness of his opponent?
    Usually when Ip-types do this, they just really want to like this other person. The compliments tend to ring more honest and there's a slightly more relaxed tone about the way they do it, a genuine appreciation of the other person's talents. Which is, vice versa, the reason they themselves are also considered more easy to approach.

    When I or other ESTjs do it, there tends to be an annoyance at one's own limits. The other person is seen as an obstacle to be surpassed, or possibly as just a distraction from the true goal, the honing of one's own skills and hence, something to be forgotten quickly.

    Anyway, for true understanding, socionics is really intricate and complex, whereas superficially it's easy. So let's take it all with a grain of salt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smilex View Post
    Usually when Ip-types do this, they just really want to like this other person. The compliments tend to ring more honest and there's a slightly more relaxed tone about the way they do it, a genuine appreciation of the other person's talents. Which is, vice versa, the reason they themselves are also considered more easy to approach.

    When I or other ESTjs do it, there tends to be an annoyance at one's own limits. The other person is seen as an obstacle to be surpassed, or possibly as just a distraction from the true goal, the honing of one's own skills and hence, something to be forgotten quickly.

    Anyway, for true understanding, socionics is really intricate and complex, whereas superficially it's easy. So let's take it all with a grain of salt.
    I agree that he does look more approachable,but I’d like to open the possibilities that it was posturing (camera interview),, possibly of truly feeling humbled at his achievement after a long time of trying
    I agree with you on the fidgety part being more Si, I would also consider looking at how tense he comes off and stressed which I attribute more to Ej
    He does mention his past failures again going back to Si so we don’t have much in the way of agreement on Si.

    Sticking with LSE
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beautiful sky View Post
    I agree that he does look more approachable,but I’d like to open the possibilities that it was posturing (camera interview),, possibly of truly feeling humbled at his achievement after a long time of trying
    I agree with you on the fidgety part being more Si, I would also consider looking at how tense he comes off and stressed which I attribute more to Ej
    He does mention his past failures again going back to Si so we don’t have much in the way of agreement on Si.

    Te base or Si base...questions
    I originally leaned on P ISTp but something about him makes me flip flop
    A fine theory. This is the way one should think about these things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smilex View Post
    A fine theory. This is the way one should think about these things.
    Thanks
    I approach it in all kinds of ways
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smilex View Post
    A fine theory. This is the way one should think about these things.
    You have no idea how deep these things are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by khcs View Post
    You have no idea how deep these things are.
    Bah. You should start with something simple and only then try to understand something more complex. This is way above your level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by khcs View Post
    You have no idea how deep these things are.
    I think he does.

    Quote Originally Posted by Smilex View Post
    Bah. You should start with something simple and only then try to understand something more complex. This is way above your level.
    I'm pretty sure he isn't going to be encouraged by your suggestion
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

    Best description of functions:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beautiful sky View Post
    I think he does.


    I'm pretty sure he isn't going to be encouraged by your suggestion
    Internet. I don't want to expend too much effort on trolls. There's good people here as well, so why not focus on such.

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