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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Strange View Post
    Yes. Sometimes you can learn your best lessons from seeing how someone else screws up.
    Adam, your mother then is hardly a model for the ideal way in which one should view the world and conduct their relationships for ME. Also, I would call the cops on her and have her ass arrested and then I would show her how far up other people’s noses a violent mother should be looking up.

    You don’t understand do you that violent people do that as to KEEP others out of their business as a form of continuing to be violent. This is another form of terrible manipulative tactic as to make the victim FEEL like they did something to deserve it. Children are NEVER to be hit under any circumstance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beautiful sky View Post
    Adam, your mother then is hardly a model for the ideal way in which one should view the world and conduct their relationships for ME. Also, I would call the cops on her and have her ass arrested and then I would show her how far up other people’s noses a violent mother should be looking up.

    You don’t understand do you that violent people do that as to KEEP others out of their business as a form of continuing to be violent
    It is easy to say what you would do in any given situation. It is usually different when you are actually in that situation.

    I understand violence very well. My father was in the military for most of his life, and my mother practiced violence daily. I think I understand violence better than most people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Strange View Post
    It is easy to say what you would do in any given situation. It is usually different when you are actually in that situation.

    I understand violence very well. My father was in the military for most of his life, and my mother practiced violence daily. I think I understand violence better than most people.
    Yeah so her “your business stops where the other person’s nose begins “ means nothing to me.
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beautiful sky View Post
    Yeah so her “your business stops where the other person’s nose begins “ means nothing to me.
    So you'd be OK with someone getting up close and personal with you? Have you been in many fistfights?

    Just because you disagree with a person doesn't mean that you can't learn from them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Strange View Post
    So you'd be OK with someone getting up close and personal with you? Have you been in many fistfights?

    Just because you disagree with a person doesn't mean that you can't learn from them.
    You have a lot of self restraint letting someone burn your mom like that. I commend you on taking the high road.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Aylen View Post
    You have a lot of self restraint letting someone burn your mom like that. I commend you on taking the high road.

    Beautiful sky was factually correct in (what I assume to be) her assessment of my mother. My mother was smart and we related on a Te-level, but she had some personal problems unrelated to type, although it is hard for me to viscerally separate that out, since it was embedded before I had the tools to understand what was happening.
    I didn't have to exercise any restrain whatsoever, since I didn't feel offended in the slightest by her assessment.

    I'm more concerned with maintaining civil discourse with freedom of expression that stops only at the other person's nose.

    The thing I said about modes of criticism is important, because it has consequences for individuals and for society. If you discriminate by behavior, then that behavior can be changed, but if you discriminate by race, color, or assigned traits that can't be changed, then you create a person who will never fit into the system because they can't affect your trait assignments, and if they can't fit in, then they have no reason to be involved in that system or maintain it.

    Societies which discriminate based on assigned traits rather than changeable behavior are going to exclude a lot of talented individuals, and are going to lose the race of history. Even aside from being crappy and dangerous places to live, since where does the assignment of bad traits stop? "First they came for the socialists..."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Strange View Post
    Beautiful sky was factually correct in (what I assume to be) her assessment of my mother. My mother was smart and we related on a Te-level, but she had some personal problems unrelated to type, although it is hard for me to viscerally separate that out, since it was embedded before I had the tools to understand what was happening.
    I didn't have to exercise any restrain whatsoever, since I didn't feel offended in the slightest by her assessment.

    I'm more concerned with maintaining civil discourse with freedom of expression that stops only at the other person's nose.

    The thing I said about modes of criticism is important, because it has consequences for individuals and for society. If you discriminate by behavior, then that behavior can be changed, but if you discriminate by race, color, or assigned traits that can't be changed, then you create a person who will never fit into the system because they can't affect your trait assignments, and if they can't fit in, then they have no reason to be involved in that system or maintain it.

    Societies which discriminate based on assigned traits rather than changeable behavior are going to exclude a lot of talented individuals, and are going to lose the race of history. Even aside from being crappy and dangerous places to live, since where does the assignment of bad traits stop? "First they came for the socialists..."
    It wasn't an assessment, it was a reaction. She was rebuking you but I guess you missed that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beautiful sky View Post
    Yeah so her “your business stops where the other person’s nose begins “ means nothing to me.
    Yea thats why u got 7 warnings and i got 2

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    I've already provided empirical evidence for both socionics and enneagram.

    https://www.pinterest.com/socionics/
    https://stackemup.livejournal.com/

    The OP is truly a sick individual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kill4Me View Post
    I've already provided empirical evidence for both socionics and enneagram.

    https://www.pinterest.com/socionics/
    https://stackemup.livejournal.com/

    The OP is truly a sick individual.
    Of course, everyone that disagrees with you is a sick individual. Fuck all the way off, dumb cunt

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    "arithmetics isn't real. sometimes I got 2*2=5"

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    Is it pseudoscience? We'll know for sure once neurology is advanced enough, however many decades or centuries from now, to fully dissect the workings of the brain. But, whatever theory of personality emerges probably won't be as simple or look very much like socionics.

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