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    I’ve always had friends from all walks of life. Usually what attracts me is warmness. If someone is warm to me and understands my level of sensitivity they are mine to keep.

    Yes I did attempt to befriend a gay guy with similar interests as myself at the Farmers market but he was on the sprawl and I was in his way. Some people need to be in a relationship to be happy.

    Delta may make judgements and fun of people however that doesn’t equate to how they feel about individuals. They are more about what is theirs, as in their relationships and will proudly wear them.
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beautiful sky View Post
    I’ve always had friends from all walks of life. Usually what attracts me is warmness. If someone is warm to me and understands my level of sensitivity they are mine to keep.

    Yes I did attempt to befriend a gay guy with similar interests as myself at the Farmers market but he was on the sprawl and I was in his way. Some people need to be in a relationship to be happy.

    Delta may make judgements and fun of people however that doesn’t equate to how they feel about individuals. They are more about what is theirs, as in their relationships and will proudly wear them.
    well I know EIIs who seem and maybe are ok with LGBTQI, because they believe in humanity, "the humanist", known as "dostoyevsky" who even tried to understand and believed in the humanity of murders, criminals, etc. The type's philosophy of existence perhaps is to bring more warmness into relations.

    Still often EIIs have or agree with the aristocratic standpoints for example: ok love whoever you want, that doesn't harm humanity, but why are you also sucking marriage which is a tradition between a man and a woman into your own socio-cultural movement? I knew a bisexual EII once who was against gay marriage because it is a disgrace to traditions.

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    Delta may make judgements and fun of people however that doesn’t equate to how they feel about individuals. They are more about what is theirs, as in their relationships and will proudly wear them.
    I think judging and making fun of people does equate to you causing trouble for them in the long run, therefore does say something about how you feel about them or how you will make them feel about themselves. But very true about Delta.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zero View Post
    well I know EIIs who seem and maybe are ok with LGBTQI, because they believe in humanity, "the humanist", known as "dostoyevsky" who even tried to understand and believed in the humanity of murders, criminals, etc. The type's philosophy of existence perhaps is to bring more warmness into relations.

    Still often EIIs have or agree with the aristocratic standpoints for example: ok love whoever you want, that doesn't harm humanity, but why are you also sucking marriage which is a tradition between a man and a woman into your own socio-cultural movement? I knew a bisexual EII once who was against gay marriage because it is a disgrace to traditions.

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    I think judging and making fun of people does equate to you causing trouble for them in the long run, therefore does say something about how you feel about them or how you will make them feel about themselves. But very true about Delta.
    That’s possible that the EII was against traditions. But remember that EII battle shame and agonize over their flaws. Take a transexual EII who feels himself to be a man yet can not open up emotionally to his close relationships (parents).

    My parents are Gamma irrational pair and they were often more traditional and unforgiving than I. I don’t think that they would ever accept anyone in the family that comes out as gay and my ILI mother may either attempt to sweep it under the rug, say “it’s shameful don’t talk about it” or would try to change your own views of yourself by many guilty manipulative tactics like convincing you to do things her way or the way that she sees them to be correct. Playing politics.

    I think the level of acceptance in Delta comes from their culture (doesn’t everybody’s?” Certainly my ESI aunt (born in the 1940s) and I view human sexuality differently. She is certainly against having gay people in society. I think that the world without diversity is boring.
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

    Best description of functions:
    http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html

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