F type, eh?
...... my first impression was: wow, this is an ESFj (or other Fj) who is trying ot act ESFp. Look at the movements. But maybe it is an ESFp trying to act like something else.
I'm not sure.
F type, eh?
...... my first impression was: wow, this is an ESFj (or other Fj) who is trying ot act ESFp. Look at the movements. But maybe it is an ESFp trying to act like something else.
I'm not sure.
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~a certain mysterious power that may prove terribly fascinating to the extraverted man, for it touches his unconscious.
ESFP, so stay away.
INFp
Originally Posted by Rocky
Is that so?
I say this only because most of the ESFps I know are disturbed by such emotional music. Whenever I brought up emotionality about them, in regard to relationships, they cringed.
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ESFj, but I'd gladly give her a shot.
Obsequium amicos, veritas odium parit
HOLY SMOKES YES!!!Originally Posted by UDP II
that is possibly the first time i have seen someone bring up that aspect of ESFp on this board.Originally Posted by UDP II
6w5 sx
model Φ: -+0
sloan - rcuei
Introverts Behaviour in Relationship(from Socionika.com):
· manage inner life of relationship
· adapts to other person’s initiative
· include partner in his inner life (feelings, sentiments, inner needs, subjective perception of reality)
· looks after partner’s feelings
It shouldn't really be that shocking, even if the person is ESFp. These goddamn misconceptions-- I swear! Lets try to use the available information, and not the collective concept produced by the message board(we'll call that sixteenonics).
asd
Here's a picture of her husband, record producer and songwriter Mutt Lange
I've read that he is a serious introvert in the non-socionics sense.
He writes her music too so don't blame her for any emotionality or whatever in the music.
It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so.-Mark Twain
You can't wake a person who is pretending to be asleep.
ESFp
(the song "any man of mine" as well as many of her other songs with somewhat similar attitudes were like my ESFp friend's motto )
Okay, being that she doesn't write her songs, it may not be significant... but since it's the person who knows her best that write/co writes her songs, I think he could be writing about her.
songs like "Forever and for Always?"
maybe "I'm Goona Getcha Good" would be more ESFp. Aggressor attitude?
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She changed her name, but seems relatively traditional. Country music, traditional hair styles...Originally Posted by FDG
I thought that originally, but I don't know enough about her right now.
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I don't know "Forever and for Always", but the ESFp friend of mine said that she wanted "From This Moment On" played at her wedding.Originally Posted by UDP II
I think she's ESFj. I saw an interview with her at that point and she seemed pretty Fe-heavy to me.
It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so.-Mark Twain
You can't wake a person who is pretending to be asleep.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h203v9cLWyM
She's lipsyching, sure, but even then... are those p type movements? They seem more rigid. But I might be wrong. I am mostly speculating
Look at how she waves her hands, and even walks sometimes.
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I agree, ESFj, after seeing an interview with her.Originally Posted by FDG
Be aware that she was born in the same year as I, FDG.
, LIE, ENTj logical subtype, 8w9 sx/sp
Originally Posted by implied
Fine, she's experienced!Originally Posted by Expat
Obsequium amicos, veritas odium parit
This has always been my vibe on her from the beginning, ESFJ.Originally Posted by Slacker Mom
Topaz
The artifact which is the source of my power will not be kept on the Mountain of Despair beyond the River of Fire guarded by the Dragons of Eternity. It will be in my safe-deposit box. The same applies to the object which is my one weakness.
ESTJ in my humble opinion
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Bump, as part of the "Alpha Gallery" Project.
Just wanted to see what people thought again. I always thought of her as an ESFj
"I'm Gonna Getcha Good"
What an unusual video -
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WV4Pjfhl_Vc[/youtube]
Performed live... creative it would appear....
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Js30XzMHp3E[/youtube]
Another interview....
[youtube]http://youtube.com/watch?v=qNDk1t1tCws[/youtube]
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And her husband Mutt Lange?
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I think people said INFp before, I do not know him.
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The song, in the very least, is Se + Fi. Most of hers are, from what I recall (haven't listened to much country music in many years, lol).
She can't be a type. She's not even a person
ILE "Searcher"
Socionics: ENTp
DCNH: Dominant --> perhaps Normalizing
Enneagram: 7w6 "Enthusiast"
MBTI: ENTJ "Field Marshall" or ENTP "Inventor"
Astrological sign: Aquarius
To learn, read. To know, write. To master, teach.
^ agree. I would guess some alpha sf though. i don't think her music expresses anything about her besides the fact she can sing. she probably didn't write any of it.
asd
According to official sources, most of the songs I'm referring to were written by herself and her ex-husband.
It's funny you bring this up, Joy. I was thinking about Twain recently and considering that she doesn't really seem to exude , I typed her as ESFj once, but, I am not so sure about that now.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfuI0XWGIqw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZKQCC06sPg
(if you look at her kid pictures there, she isn't really OMG OMG OMG )
Look how she reacts to Mark McGrath's "emotional" comment
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKJgWJ95qSU
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Posts I wrote in the past contain less nuance.
If you're in this forum to learn something, be careful. Lots of misplaced toxicity.
~an extraverted consciousness is unable to believe in invisible forces.
~a certain mysterious power that may prove terribly fascinating to the extraverted man, for it touches his unconscious.
LOL that you refer to IP "just sitting there" as "mushy".
I think she's SEE, but her music still sucks
An ESFj in a funny outfit.
Any other guesses?
She's really matter of factual in a bunch of interviews. Jus' sayin.
Highly bonkable
and perhaps SEE.
“Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”
Originally Posted by Gilly
Si-ESFjs are so weird lol.