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    Because I’m curious what impressions he gives. Also enneagram guesses? Because I’m clueless about his enneagram . He’s a bit mysterious...lol Maybe I’ll add description later.








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    YES LIE-Ni! Sorry, just a little excited to see another person typing this way, because I just have come to realize someone I know very closely is actually LIE-Ni, and I totally recognized this guy as LIE-Ni as well, right away.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MrsTortilla View Post
    YES LIE-Ni! Sorry, just a little excited to see another person typing this way, because I just have come to realize someone I know very closely is actually LIE-Ni, and I totally recognized this guy as LIE-Ni as well, right away.
    To reply to myself (haha)... Okay so LIE-Ni Harmonizing types can resemble SLI's (their supervisors). I am aware not everyone agrees with DCNH theory but THIS is a real thing. I'll come out and say that I get this knowledge partially from an epiphany I have had about my dad.

    A while back I asked people to VI my dad. Sol was sure he was ISTj or ESTp, but IR and just knowing him really ruled that out. I had settled on an introverted sort of ESTj typing but Sol was right IN THAT ESTj(Si) never quite fit..... After studying LIE-Ni's I suddenly realized my dad not only looked like one (as a younger person especially) but fit the criteria. And he too appears to be quiet and mysterious in some ways. When I read that Harmonizing types can resemble their supervisors it all clicked.

    Anyway, I VI my dad the same way as your dad @aster: LIE-Ni. Is he a Harmonizing type? Very interesting case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrsTortilla View Post
    Is he a Harmonizing type?
    Honestly, I’m not sure. I think it’s likely, from what I’ve read, but I’m not knowledgeable enough about DCNH to say with any degree of certainty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrsTortilla View Post
    To reply to myself (haha)... Okay so LIE-Ni Harmonizing types can resemble SLI's (their supervisors). I am aware not everyone agrees with DCNH theory but THIS is a real thing. I'll come out and say that I get this knowledge partially from an epiphany I have had about my dad.

    A while back I asked people to VI my dad. Sol was sure he was ISTj or ESTp, but IR and just knowing him really ruled that out. I had settled on an introverted sort of ESTj typing but Sol was right IN THAT ESTj(Si) never quite fit..... After studying LIE-Ni's I suddenly realized my dad not only looked like one (as a younger person especially) but fit the criteria. And he too appears to be quiet and mysterious in some ways. When I read that Harmonizing types can resemble their supervisors it all clicked.

    Anyway, I VI my dad the same way as your dad @aster: LIE-Ni. Is he a Harmonizing type? Very interesting case.
    I don't know Aster's dad's type, just responding concerning Harmonizing LIE. I've only met one H-LIE, but I know him quite well. He is a strange combination of very laid back and super efficient. It's like he has a Te engine full of horsepowers spinning under the hood.

    I met him at university. He was getting to know a C-SEE girl at the same time, whom I also knew. We used to hang out all three of us.

    Here is a picture of him (click to enlarge):

    H-LIE.jpg
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tallmo View Post
    I don't know Aster's dad's type, just responding concerning Harmonizing LIE. I've only met one H-LIE, but I know him quite well. He is a strange combination of very laid back and super efficient. It's like he has a Te engine full of horsepowers spinning under the hood.

    I met him at university. He was getting to know a C-SEE girl at the same time, whom I also knew. We used to hang out all three of us.

    Here is a picture of him (click to enlarge):

    H-LIE.jpg
    This is interesting! That combo as described indeed at least sounds like my dad. He’s either got his “business hat” on or is laid back, jokey and knows how to relax.
    Edit: But his overarching life theme is a very clear vision of creating wealth and providing for his family implemented with expert Te. After my brother’s death especially it is all that keeps him going.

    More photos (grabbed from a public profile he has so quality isn’t great but using because they show him in his 30’s on one side and 60’s on the other).

    Not sure if there is a resemblance in expression. But he is probably Ni and Harmonizing subtypes.

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    Okay give me a few
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    Why is he mysterious?
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beautiful sky View Post
    Why is he mysterious?
    He’s really quiet, kind of secretive, doesn’t talk about himself that much. Some find him a bit odd.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aster View Post
    He’s really quiet, kind of secretive, doesn’t talk about himself that much. Some find him a bit odd.
    But is he observant? What comments does he make out of his perception?
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beautiful sky View Post
    But is he observant? What comments does he make out of his perception?
    Yes, I would consider him observant. He makes comments on my appearance. Like, ‘what’s on your face?’, and is frequently pointing out people’s weight, whether they are over weight or have gotten thinner.. Last time I saw him he walked around my house observing everything, and then outside, and then told me I needed to fix my roof. Those are the kind of thigs he’s observant about...
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    Quote Originally Posted by aster View Post
    Yes, I would consider him observant. He makes comments on my appearance. Like, ‘what’s on your face?’, and is frequently pointing out people’s weight, whether they are over weight or have gotten thinner.. Last time I saw him he walked around my house observing everything, and then outside, and then told me I needed to fix my roof. Those are the kind of thigs he’s observant about...
    What does that tell you Aster ? I’m going to help you type your own father
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    If he’s an N type how do you guys explain this???

    Quote Originally Posted by aster View Post
    Yes, I would consider him observant. He makes comments on my appearance. Like, ‘what’s on your face?’, and is frequently pointing out people’s weight, whether they are over weight or have gotten thinner.. Last time I saw him he walked around my house observing everything, and then outside, and then told me I needed to fix my roof. Those are the kind of thigs he’s observant about...
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    Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?


    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    Quote Originally Posted by aster View Post
    Yes, I would consider him observant. He makes comments on my appearance. Like, ‘what’s on your face?’, and is frequently pointing out people’s weight, whether they are over weight or have gotten thinner..
    Quote Originally Posted by Beautiful sky View Post
    If he’s an N type how do you guys explain this???
    My LIE mom is like this. She comments on my appearance all the time. The last time I cut my hair, I shaved it all off, and she noted it and made a fuss.

    Ni ego types often take note of physical features, comparing and contrasting, because as victim types, they throw gauntlets for those around them to see who will come out the victor. Ultimately, they value Se, so they tend to look for people who show competency in having sensory awareness of objects around them.

    My EIE girlfriend also looks for people who have a sensory awareness, and she tends to notice differences/changes of others' appearance.

    Additionally, LIE is an extravert, and extraverts focus on the object because they are extraverted:

    https://www.sociotype.com/socionics/dichotomies/ie
    Extraversion / Introversion is one of the 4 Jungian dichotomies, and one of the 15 Reinin dichotomies. Extraversion in socionics is a perceptual quality defined by a focus on the characteristics and behavior of objects (people, things, events) outside the observer. In contrast, introversion means a focus on the observer's response to and perception of objects. Augusta likened the difference between extraverted and introverted perception to the difference between bodies and fields in physics. "Bodies" are objects with mass and certain qualities, while "fields" are the realm of interaction between bodies.

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    SLI.

    Interesting how he often wears some dark clothes.

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    Which one of these three is he doing?

    -recognizing potential
    recognizing the unfolding of an event
    - aware of the physical aspects of things

    ?

    Quote Originally Posted by aster View Post
    Yes, I would consider him observant. He makes comments on my appearance. Like, ‘what’s on your face?’, and is frequently pointing out people’s weight, whether they are over weight or have gotten thinner.. Last time I saw him he walked around my house observing everything, and then outside, and then told me I needed to fix my roof. Those are the kind of thigs he’s observant about...
    Last edited by Beautiful sky; 04-08-2019 at 04:16 PM.
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    This is basically text book.

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    Yup SLI

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    My initial guess was to say Fe PoLR. There's a gruffness to his face that I associate more with delta STs than I do gamma NTs. So, I think delta ST with SLI > LSE.


    EDIT: Looking at it again, I see a lot of resemblance to Warren Buffett. Perhaps Buffett is, indeed, an SLI.
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    The retro photos are a treasure. I really like the Halloween one

    As for the type...hmmm, all dads are Delta STs, aren't they?
    Until it's settled, you should adopt that as a placeholder type for him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Babooshka View Post
    The retro photos are a treasure. I really like the Halloween one

    As for the type...hmmm, all dads are Delta STs, aren't they?
    Until it's settled, you should adopt that as a placeholder type for him.
    Chocolate Santa. Yum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FarDraft View Post
    Yes, all dads are delta ST, including the dead and non-existent ones. I'm not sure what TIM all Moms would be, so I'll just say MILf.
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Babooshka View Post
    The retro photos are a treasure. I really like the Halloween one
    Yes, they are gems, retros The nostalgia is killing me!
    Last edited by Aster; 04-08-2019 at 07:46 PM.
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    All Moms are SEI.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Strange View Post
    All Moms are SEI.
    I thought they're all ESE and turn into SEIs once they're grandmas

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Strange View Post
    All Moms are SEI.
    All moms are ESE, all dads are SLI. All families are therefore situation comedies.
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    First thing that came to mind was SLI (:
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    @aster He looks a ton like my Ni-LIE dad, especially the younger photos of him. I am not sure what his type his because I have no clue how your dad behaves, but he VIs like a Ni-LIE regardless.
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    Nice photos aster <3

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    Favorite cousin - similar kind of LIE?

    cousin.jpg

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    @aster I'm trying to get my mom to snap a pic of my dad's high school photo (which VI's a lot like your dad's) and when I get it I'll post it here.

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    lets make a thread for dads

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    Your father is ISTJ
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    He looks the kind of person who doesn't want his privacy fucked with. I hope you asked for permission.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Karatos View Post
    He looks the kind of person who doesn't want his privacy fucked with. I hope you asked for permission.
    lol. He doesn’t mind if I only keep them up for a few days. I’m the baby of the family and never got in trouble with my dad. I can do no wrong
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    LIE Ni. Glazed over look.

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