Quote Originally Posted by Number 9 large View Post
and yes i think so. a beta society would be more on the lines of nazi germany, or maybe even ancient sparta

once a society stabilizes thats when Delta stage kicks in. Betas are all about revolution, war and implementing some new kind of system of beliefs. such a nazism, communism, but also the ideas of the french revolution. deltas are conservative, while betas want fast change. its why theyre the opposite quadras. deltas want stability and slow but steady change(or no change at all), and betas usually want revolution in some way. they always rebel (when you look at history). and seeing how western society has stabilized into sizable democracies that somewhat work well, yea id say its delta now. (with maybe a hint of gamma in some places, like america where theres no healthcare for all, and huge gaps between the richest and poorest people of the country, cuz delta societies tend to be more forgiving towards the weak ones in society cuz of Si (caregiving) over Se (aggressing) valuing.
I think when dealing with concepts as large and abstract as "society" it's possible to see different parts of it and come to different conclusions. Speaking about American society in particular, it seems individualistic to the point of isolationistic (Fi), then there's this emphasis on sensory experiences over comforts; take fast food, Instagram culture, pop culture in general, TV, and then there's the national obsession over sports, especially football. And I think there's this general, latent feeling of unease in many Americans, as if something is wrong, or about to be: I think this is related to the plethora of dystopian movies and YA literature that have been popular -- which seems related to (weak?) Ni. And of course there's Te: how concepts are taught in public schools, modern business culture, and I think also it's reflected in attitude towards stuff like higher education and books and such: education's only socially valued to the extent that it helps one "get a job", rather than being a goal in itself.

Also, wouldn't you say the average American is more aggressive than caregiving?