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    Quote Originally Posted by thehotelambush View Post
    @sbbdsit doesn't do any good to pretend that gender identity disorder is part of the natural, healthy variation of the human psyche - least of all to the person himself.
    Really? Explain this then.

    "Treatment for a person diagnosed with GID may include psychotherapy or to support the individual's preferred gender through hormone therapy, gender expression and role, or surgery."

    It says nothing about being an ass and rejecting their expression as a viable way. You act as if you are speaking from a medical and scientific background. You don't. You can rationalise your behaviour however you want. It still lack decency, compassion, tolerance and humanity. You are not helping anyone. You are just being intentionally hurtful to someone because they don't share your backward values. Plain and simple.

    I don't blame you though. That is the culture you were raised in. Muslim communities still lack basic understanding of human dignity. I know that too well since I'm ex-Muslim.

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    Quote Originally Posted by COOL AND MANLY View Post
    Really? Explain this then.

    "Treatment for a person diagnosed with GID may include psychotherapy or to support the individual's preferred gender through hormone therapy, gender expression and role, or surgery."

    It says nothing about being an ass and rejecting their expression as a viable way. You act as if you are speaking from a medical and scientific background. You don't. You can rationalise your behaviour however you want. It still lack decency, compassion, tolerance and humanity. You are not helping anyone. You are just being intentionally hurtful to someone because they don't share your backward values. Plain and simple.

    I don't blame you though. That is the culture you were raised in. Muslim communities still lack basic understanding of human dignity. I know that too well since I'm ex-Muslim.
    Validating someone's delusions about themselves doesn't help anyone. Unfortunately the psychological establishment is now mostly run by people who have no problem with doing that, probably because they're so deluded themselves.

    Funny how I'm the one who is "pushing his values" when you're the ones calling me backwards and reporting me for not sharing your values.

    And, by the way, I was not raised as a Muslim, but the Muslim communities I've known have a far higher understanding of human dignity.

    @sbbds How about I put you on ignore again?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thehotelambush View Post
    Validating someone's delusions about themselves doesn't help anyone. Unfortunately the psychological establishment is now mostly run by people who have no problem with doing that, probably because they're so deluded themselves.

    Funny how I'm the one who is "pushing his values" when you're the ones calling me backwards and reporting me for not sharing your values.

    And, by the way, I was not raised as a Muslim, but the Muslim communities I've known have a far higher understanding of human dignity.

    @sbbds How about I put you on ignore again?
    You are showing your delusion by thinking that is a threat to anyone except for yourself.

    Go ahead and isolate yourself further and let your lovely values concentrate. I'll leave you alone to go beat your goat wife in peace.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thehotelambush View Post
    Validating someone's delusions about themselves doesn't help anyone. Unfortunately the psychological establishment is now mostly run by people who have no problem with doing that, probably because they're so deluded themselves.

    Funny how I'm the one who is "pushing his values" when you're the ones calling me backwards and reporting me for not sharing your values.

    And, by the way, I was not raised as a Muslim, but the Muslim communities I've known have a far higher understanding of human dignity.

    @sbbds How about I put you on ignore again?
    The difference is, the values you are pushing directly harm people.
    I also find it funny that you have a subtle jab at my type yet haven't stated your typing of me with a valid reason.
    Be my guest and keep making yourself look like an ass though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thehotelambush View Post
    Funny how I'm the one who is "pushing his values" when you're the ones calling me backwards and reporting me for not sharing your values.

    LETS TALK ABOUT IT!

    I will never understand the logic of people ... (@sbbds in this instance) who in essence say "because your opinion isn't my opinion it's wrong."


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    Quote Originally Posted by Danali View Post

    LETS TALK ABOUT IT!

    I will never understand the logic of people ... (@sbbds in this instance) who in essence say "because your opinion isn't my opinion it's wrong."
    No one is saying that
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danali View Post
    LETS TALK ABOUT IT!

    I will never understand the logic of people ... (@sbbds in this instance) who in essence say "because your opinion isn't my opinion it's wrong."
    Do you not understand "very high rates of suicide"?

    My opinion is also the opinion of developed nations that are known to have excellent social welfare and quality of life but idk just saying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dumb Danali View Post
    who in essence say "because your opinion isn't my opinion it's wrong."
    If you're seeing this, maybe you're the one having delusions?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danali View Post
    Fi ignoring at its finest and classiest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danali View Post

    LETS TALK ABOUT IT!

    I will never understand the logic of people ... (@sbbds in this instance) who in essence say "because your opinion isn't my opinion it's wrong."
    I'm afraid there's no point in talking about it, at least not with her. Watch as she becomes even louder and nastier the more I ignore her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thehotelambush View Post
    I'm afraid there's no point in talking about it, at least not with her. Watch as she becomes even louder and nastier the more I ignore her.
    And how predictable, watch as it tries to villify the opponent to give them less credibility. Top notch entertainment coming from our forum jester right here

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danali View Post
    I will never understand the logic of people ... (@sbbds in this instance) who in essence say "because your opinion isn't my opinion it's wrong."
    Well, she did provide a rationale, a set of reasons for her opinion, based on the FACT that there is a very high suicide rate among Transgender teens, due in part to rejection, bullying, harassment and feeling as if they don't belong/are unwanted. Of course, in light of this, people still have the right to "not care" or be moved by that FACT, but her stance is not irrational.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thehotelambush View Post
    Validating someone's delusions about themselves doesn't help anyone. Unfortunately the psychological establishment is now mostly run by people who have no problem with doing that, probably because they're so deluded themselves.
    Good thing we have established that you lack scientific integrity. You have just called everyone who disagree with you delusional.

    Quote Originally Posted by thehotelambush View Post
    Funny how I'm the one who is "pushing his values" when you're the ones calling me backwards and reporting me for not sharing your values.
    Lol, are you serious? You don't get to insult people and expect no repercussions. If I was a moderated you would have been banned already. No one asked for your opinion, and yet you shared it and continued to do so in a disgusting manner. I'm not here to change your mind. I couldn't care less about your values. But I will tell you when I think you have crossed a line and I will make my position known. I'm very well capable of turning every post of yours a commentary on your lack of common sense due to your religious background. It's not like you are free of bias. I just choose to not get involved most of the time since you are not harming anyone. Do you think personal attacks like that are "helpful"?

    Quote Originally Posted by thehotelambush View Post
    And, by the way, I was not raised as a Muslim, but the Muslim communities I've known have a far higher understanding of human dignity.
    Good joke.

    I'm curious, what is your background then? I remember you saying you practice Sufism.

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