Interesting, I used to self type as such. Could you elaborate?Originally Posted by Blackberry
Interesting, I used to self type as such. Could you elaborate?
Voice tone and body language seems Fe. I don't see Ne really in any of what you say.
I'd say EIE-Ni or even IEI.
Because she looks and moves similar to an IEI mtf I know well and is taking time to answer in a similar way, that they do, while looking off into the air, I considered it too. If IEI there is a lot of acting going on so... Fe sub, if... No offense @queentiger
I am trying to be more objective than just saying she reminds me of someone but she does. :/
They are a 4w5 so/sx so a bit different vibe. They have a lot more emo going on.
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Lol I will tell you categorically, I'm not introverted
Leadership is not about Te.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fByRLOM8WQw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkueWcljFyI
Did you mean Te is not about leadership?
Fi valuing types tend to be the kind of people who, "like people they agree with" or "agree with people who they like".
Fe valuing types, in a weird way don't care about stuff like that, technically they could be in the presence, in this case watch someone, they don't agree with but still quite enjoy their company.
What if I'm both?
Hmm, tbh I should've asked more questions, but i'll explain...
You instantly said "she's really funny" as if that's the be all and end all despite disagreeing with her.
Katie is "right wing", you're a trans-woman which stereotypically places you in the "left wing" however, you don't mind her.
Fi types tend to like people who agree with their judgements.
basically, my conclusion was along those lines of, you not ruling people out because you disagree with them.
Lol I'm not a left winger haha
What wrong with him stating his opinion?
What's wrong with open intolerance towards a marginalized & vulnerable group of people?
Any other amazingly genius questions or opinions you'd like to share?
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Yeah, some religious people hide behind their disgusting values to trump over others. Self righteous and vain. That is how he comes across.
I have to say I'm starting to doubt that thehotelambush is LII. Most Alpha NTs I know are either atheist or don't feel strongly one way or another about religion. This is not the first time he tried to push his values, unprompted.
Mb IEE
hmm, ok.
so what's the difference between intolerance and opinion? Do you have a problem with people who challenge your narrative?
just because you don't agree with an opinion it doesn't negate the fact it's an opinion...
An opinion is something that is formed above your brain stem. Need any more differences?
@Danali Transgender teens have very high rates of suicide. Google is there for you when you're ready to end your ignorance.
Intolerance towards marginalized groups is directly harmful, not just towards the groups themselves but towards everyone because it makes us less accepting towards weaknesses or differences as a whole. Queen Tiger already spelled it out for you above, for you "non Fi polr" people...
It becomes intolerance when it causes harm to other people.
Not difficult to understand.
I'm unashamedly going to be that person and question everything about your type... you're demonstrating very fi-te behaviour, but that is neither here nor there.@Danali Transgender teens have very high rates of suicide. Google is there for you when you're ready to end your ignorance.
Intolerance towards marginalized groups is directly harmful, not just towards the groups themselves but towards everyone because it makes us less accepting towards weaknesses or differences as a whole. Queen Tiger already spelled it out for you above, for you "non Fi polr" people...
Intolerance, as you put it, and opinions are one and the same. Opinions can be either "intolerant" e.g. I don't like talking to gay people because I think they're bad and their lifestyle is wrong." that is an intolerant opinion because 1.) its a judgment 2.) they're demonising someone who disagrees with them... a bit like what you're doing now.
So you're saying all opinions are harmful?
Serious question, would your opinion change if you found out he was Muslim?
Anyway, a person is not what he/she likes in others. Especially regarding the emotional part. It actually points towards being emotional and appreciating non emotional people.
And Ni is intuition of time. If you do not like to look through trends of time and reflecting your life through it (like EIE would) I think Ni is not part of you and clearly devalued.
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But seriously, in any case, trans or queerphobia shouldn't be tolerated on public forums. It is the standard and it's a real disappointment to see that it isn't explicitly written in the site rules. If you value uniqueness and realize everyone has vulnerabilities too, to do so is antihumanistic and on a forum about personality theory it is moronic. Tfw thehotelambush tries to pretend he's mentally stable and normal in comparison to others lol.
Yeah so I guess our site owner hasn't been on here for an entire quarter of a year, you can't really expect the highest quality out of this place. It's like licking the street floor in a back alley.
@sbbds it doesn't do any good to pretend that gender identity disorder is part of the natural, healthy variation of the human psyche - least of all to the person himself. I see socionics as a tool for self-understanding and self-improvement, but it requires you to look at yourself clearly and honestly. GID (not to mention the fact that he now types as ILE) suggests that he has issues with doing that.
I now identify as an EIE
If someone can reject their gender, why not their type which is much less obvious?
How about you tell me about your views on homosexuality and shit all over our gay and bi members too so I can report even more of your posts.@sbbds it doesn't do any good to pretend that gender identity disorder is part of the natural, healthy variation of the human psyche - least of all to the person himself. I see socionics as a tool for self-understanding and self-improvement, but it requires you to look at yourself clearly and honestly. GID (not to mention the fact that he now types as ILE) suggests that he has issues with doing that.
I now identify as an EIE
If someone can reject their gender, why not their type which is much less obvious?
Really? Explain this then.
"Treatment for a person diagnosed with GID may include psychotherapy or to support the individual's preferred gender through hormone therapy, gender expression and role, or surgery."
It says nothing about being an ass and rejecting their expression as a viable way. You act as if you are speaking from a medical and scientific background. You don't. You can rationalise your behaviour however you want. It still lack decency, compassion, tolerance and humanity. You are not helping anyone. You are just being intentionally hurtful to someone because they don't share your backward values. Plain and simple.
I don't blame you though. That is the culture you were raised in. Muslim communities still lack basic understanding of human dignity. I know that too well since I'm ex-Muslim.
Validating someone's delusions about themselves doesn't help anyone. Unfortunately the psychological establishment is now mostly run by people who have no problem with doing that, probably because they're so deluded themselves.
Funny how I'm the one who is "pushing his values" when you're the ones calling me backwards and reporting me for not sharing your values.
And, by the way, I was not raised as a Muslim, but the Muslim communities I've known have a far higher understanding of human dignity.
@sbbds How about I put you on ignore again?
You are showing your delusion by thinking that is a threat to anyone except for yourself.
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The difference is, the values you are pushing directly harm people.
I also find it funny that you have a subtle jab at my type yet haven't stated your typing of me with a valid reason.
Be my guest and keep making yourself look like an ass though.
LETS TALK ABOUT IT!
I will never understand the logic of people ... (@sbbds in this instance) who in essence say "because your opinion isn't my opinion it's wrong."
No one is saying that
LETS TALK ABOUT IT!
I will never understand the logic of people ... (@sbbds in this instance) who in essence say "because your opinion isn't my opinion it's wrong."
Do you not understand "very high rates of suicide"?
My opinion is also the opinion of developed nations that are known to have excellent social welfare and quality of life but idk just saying.
If you're seeing this, maybe you're the one having delusions?
Fi ignoring at its finest and classiest.
I'm afraid there's no point in talking about it, at least not with her. Watch as she becomes even louder and nastier the more I ignore her.
LETS TALK ABOUT IT!
I will never understand the logic of people ... (@sbbds in this instance) who in essence say "because your opinion isn't my opinion it's wrong."
Well, she did provide a rationale, a set of reasons for her opinion, based on the FACT that there is a very high suicide rate among Transgender teens, due in part to rejection, bullying, harassment and feeling as if they don't belong/are unwanted. Of course, in light of this, people still have the right to "not care" or be moved by that FACT, but her stance is not irrational.
Good thing we have established that you lack scientific integrity. You have just called everyone who disagree with you delusional.
Lol, are you serious? You don't get to insult people and expect no repercussions. If I was a moderated you would have been banned already. No one asked for your opinion, and yet you shared it and continued to do so in a disgusting manner. I'm not here to change your mind. I couldn't care less about your values. But I will tell you when I think you have crossed a line and I will make my position known. I'm very well capable of turning every post of yours a commentary on your lack of common sense due to your religious background. It's not like you are free of bias. I just choose to not get involved most of the time since you are not harming anyone. Do you think personal attacks like that are "helpful"?
Good joke.
I'm curious, what is your background then? I remember you saying you practice Sufism.
WTF people. If you want to have a civil debate on Transgender, or any NTR, issues make a thread in the appropriate subforum. Keep it out of the typing threads. You know where it belongs.
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