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    Quote Originally Posted by Doctor Weird View Post
    Sounds a bit like you might lean more toward libertarian socialism than to statist socialism.

    You should look into it. It's the only form of socialism that is remotely feasible, achievable, and sustainable.
    I am a left leaning libertarian or a left leaning centrist so I suppose this is similar to my world view politically not like I really care to classify myself. It is clear that mainstream leftism has become more extreme and has shifted towards left leaning authoritarianism over time. I will always be diametrically opposed to this kind of leftism as much as a right winger would be.

    I hate the left/right dichotomy with a passion, it pushes people to accept idiotic ideas from either side of the spectrum instead of forming their own original ideas that are highly attuned to their belief and value system. This means obtaining an amalgamation of ideas from each side of the political spectrum is necessary. Whether they land on the left, center or right when it is all said and done is irrelevant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raver View Post
    I hate the left/right dichotomy with a passion, it pushes people to accept idiotic ideas from either side of the spectrum instead of forming their own original ideas that are highly attuned to their belief and value system. This means obtaining an amalgamation of ideas from each side of the political spectrum is necessary. Whether they land on the left, center or right when it is all said and done is irrelevant.
    I can understand this line of thinking, but let's imagine for a moment you were living in Nazi Germany in the 1940s (I know it's cliche). The right had grown way out of control. Wouldn't it be incumbent on you to oppose the right wing at that time, and therefor join the left wing in Germany - their primary opposition? You may not statically identify with a particular side of the dichotomy, but you can see it from a practical standpoint as a way of balancing out imbalances in society in order to steer things in the necessary direction at a given time. Another example might be the radical, batshit left wing in America or in 1920s Russia. It is incumbent on you, in such conditions, to oppose those people, and if their primary opposition is the right wing than you must align yourself with the right wing at that time for practical purposes. So then the question you must ask yourself is... which party (if any) is reasonable? Which is more reasonable? Which group of people is most rabidly insane at the moment? etc.

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