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    women over here are still very feminine, I'd say it's the opposite. MEN are becoming more feminine, and instead of getting the cool "female" traits like sensitivity and open with emotions today's dudes inherited the more unlikable "female" traits like passivity and apologizing for things that aren't their fault.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ruined View Post
    women over here are still very feminine, I'd say it's the opposite. MEN are becoming more feminine, and instead of getting the cool "female" traits like sensitivity and open with emotions today's dudes inherited the more unlikable "female" traits like passivity and apologizing for things that aren't their fault.
    Anima possession?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doctor Weird View Post
    Anima possession?
    maybe, I would have said it's because the idea of "toxic masculinity" has been shoved down the throats of young men as being inappropriate, violent, and generally unwanted or unhealthy. this belief breeds men who feel sorry for being men and they would begin to adopt feminine traits

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    Quote Originally Posted by ruined View Post
    maybe, I would have said it's because the idea of "toxic masculinity" has been shoved down the throats of young men as being inappropriate, violent, and generally unwanted or unhealthy. this belief breeds men who feel sorry for being men and they would begin to adopt feminine traits

    Indeed.

    I think two types of guys emerge as a result of the near constant lecturing about "toxic" masculinity that has become pervasive. The first type fits your description: doormats and apologists who seem to act out of shame; men who feel a need to apologize "on behalf of all men" (as a result of being led to believe the idea that all men are collectively responsible for the worst 'patriarchal' behaviors and attitudes). The second type might best be described as hyper masculine caricatures, amping up behaviors and attitudes traditionally associated with maleness, but to a cartoonish level, in an act of defiance.

    Neither is a healthy mode.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doctor Weird View Post
    Anima possession?
    https://appliedjung.com/anima-possession/

    Jordan Peterson has done a lot to push this concept hasn't he...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ruined View Post
    women over here are still very feminine, I'd say it's the opposite. MEN are becoming more feminine, and instead of getting the cool "female" traits like sensitivity and open with emotions today's dudes inherited the more unlikable "female" traits like passivity and apologizing for things that aren't their fault.
    That's correct so we have a bunch of insensitive crybabies
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doctor Weird View Post
    I'm not sure Differential r/K theory has ever been fully validated, so it may lead to a false understanding or over-simplification of human reproductive strategies and behaviors.

    Your suggested test is amusing though. I imagined you doing this with latex gloves and doctors' instruments. Sounds like a setup for a porno scene
    In my mind it is quite validated. It fully explains the "cycle of civilizations" for one thing. Prosperity is a curse, ruin is a blessing. Sadly, the cycle continues and we've no idea as to why. Until r/K selection theory that is. Now we know. Hopefully we "get it" this time around and arrest the cycle at peak prosperity after the next/upcoming ruin phase. Find God, exercise thine pimp hand and make it strong Lord, so that ye may ensure thine descendants never tolerate r-selected bullshit like Atheism, Feminism, Communism, and Egalitarianism. For hopefully they'll learn from our monumental mistakes and thus not make them ever again.

    Quote Originally Posted by ruined View Post
    women over here are still very feminine, I'd say it's the opposite. MEN are becoming more feminine, and instead of getting the cool "female" traits like sensitivity and open with emotions today's dudes inherited the more unlikable "female" traits like passivity and apologizing for things that aren't their fault.
    Women are becoming the aggressive Alpha males they need, and men are becoming the nurturing/vulnerable women they want. Again, fully predictable, a key part of r-selection is the inversion of "traditional" gender roles. Trust me, the bitchification of your men will very, very soon, be met with the butchification/masculinization of your women. Mark my words, I'll bet money on it. Give it a year or two, you'll see it happen .

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    Quote Originally Posted by End View Post
    In my mind it is quite validated. It fully explains the "cycle of civilizations" for one thing. Prosperity is a curse, ruin is a blessing. Sadly, the cycle continues and we've no idea as to why. Until r/K selection theory that is. Now we know. Hopefully we "get it" this time around and arrest the cycle at peak prosperity after the next/upcoming ruin phase. Find God, exercise thine pimp hand and make it strong Lord, so that ye may ensure thine descendants never tolerate r-selected bullshit like Atheism, Feminism, Communism, and Egalitarianism. For hopefully they'll learn from our monumental mistakes and thus not make them ever again.



    Women are becoming the aggressive Alpha males they need, and men are becoming the nurturing/vulnerable women they want. Again, fully predictable, a key part of r-selection is the inversion of "traditional" gender roles. Trust me, the bitchification of your men will very, very soon, be met with the butchification/masculinization of your women. Mark my words, I'll bet money on it. Give it a year or two, you'll see it happen .
    that's a good thing, maybe i will finally find my SLE waifu

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    Quote Originally Posted by ruined View Post
    that's a good thing, maybe i will finally find my SLE waifu
    Hahaha, I hope to find my own SEE waifu as well. Don't forget the key to Victim romance, they ought to chase you, not the other way around .

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    Quote Originally Posted by End View Post
    In my mind it is quite validated. It fully explains the "cycle of civilizations" for one thing. Prosperity is a curse, ruin is a blessing. Sadly, the cycle continues and we've no idea as to why. Until r/K selection theory that is. Now we know. Hopefully we "get it" this time around and arrest the cycle at peak prosperity after the next/upcoming ruin phase. Find God, exercise thine pimp hand and make it strong Lord, so that ye may ensure thine descendants never tolerate r-selected bullshit like Atheism, Feminism, Communism, and Egalitarianism. For hopefully they'll learn from our monumental mistakes and thus not make them ever again.
    In your mind.

    Women are becoming the aggressive Alpha males they need, and men are becoming the nurturing/vulnerable women they want. Again, fully predictable, a key part of r-selection is the inversion of "traditional" gender roles. Trust me, the bitchification of your men will very, very soon, be met with the butchification/masculinization of your women. Mark my words, I'll bet money on it. Give it a year or two, you'll see it happen .
    Somewhat agree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by End View Post
    Trust me, the bitchification of your men will very, very soon, be met with the butchification/masculinization of your women. Mark my words, I'll bet money on it. Give it a year or two, you'll see it happen .
    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    hence with the abbility to born


    So much gold in this thread

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    Quote Originally Posted by sbbds View Post
    So much gold in this thread
    to make you intellectually richier

    there are objective markers of good fertility of women. they are associated with feminity in men's mind. body and some psyche markers. for example, it's better when a woman has low anger as she deals with tender (physically and emotionally) kids

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    tender (physically and emotionally) kids Sol

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    Quote Originally Posted by sbbds View Post
    *sigh* a spouse needs a care too

    all men associate tender/cute emotionality with feminity

    while base T people pay the attention on this the most as need the emotional support the most as it's the weakest region by Jung and suggestive region
    so I was significantly attracted only to women with F types. I got this cake (mutual feelings with ESI) in early age. this prevented me to agree on lesser, on boring and emotionally awkward T women
    I think you as IEI and you are mostly cute in my perception

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    mostly
    how dare ypu

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    it's not just social normas
    the degree a woman fits to the normas of physical attractiveness relates to her abbility to born children. in case of wrong hormonal levels she not only will look as lesser feminine, but should be harder to born

    for example, when a woman gets much of physical load to have more muscles - her hormones change to the degree of geting troubles with her periods and hence with the abbility to born
    That's a really low level of body fat where it starts to interfere with the period. There is a pretty big amount of room until then.


    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    *sigh* a spouse needs a care too

    all men associate tender/cute emotionality with feminity

    while base T people pay the attention on this the most as need the emotional support the most as it's the weakest region by Jung and suggestive region
    so I was significantly attracted only to women with F types. I got this cake (mutual feelings with ESI) in early age. this prevented me to agree on lesser, on boring and emotionally awkward T women
    I think you as IEI and you are mostly cute in my perception
    I think you are just into her Fe HA

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    Quote Originally Posted by ruined View Post
    women over here are still very feminine, I'd say it's the opposite. MEN are becoming more feminine, and instead of getting the cool "female" traits like sensitivity and open with emotions today's dudes inherited the more unlikable "female" traits like passivity and apologizing for things that aren't their fault.
    Marxists were lacking a proletariat so they needed a new one.
    Their bourgeois is the straight white male and their proletariat is every other group.
    They are constantly demoralising and trying to guilt trip their bourgeois into self-abandonment.

    They will fuck us as much into our heads as they can until we abolish our white straight male privilege by castrating ourselves and mixing with the proletariat.
    That in this progress all of civilisation will be lost forever does not seem to bother the communists.
    Maybe they get off to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Itsme View Post
    Marxists were lacking a proletariat so they needed a new one.
    Their bourgeois is the straight white male and their proletariat is every other group.
    They are constantly demoralising and trying to guilt trip their bourgeois into self-abandonment.

    They will fuck us as much into our heads as they can until we abolish our white straight male privilege by castrating ourselves and mixing with the proletariat.
    That in this progress all of civilisation will be lost forever does not seem to bother the communists.
    Maybe they get off to it.
    Hehehe, you echo my own thoughts on this matter. I mean, if we asked of any other group what the left demands of the straight white male we'd rightly be called frothing mad genocidal maniacs. Sadly, the left has no capacity for self-reflection. If they did, they'd have retained their former sense of humor. Lemme tell ya, far as my instincts are telling me, George Carlin and his ilk would side with the right if they were alive today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by End View Post
    Hehehe, you echo my own thoughts on this matter. I mean, if we asked of any other group what the left demands of the straight white male we'd rightly be called frothing mad genocidal maniacs. Sadly, the left has no capacity for self-reflection. If they did, they'd have retained their former sense of humor. Lemme tell ya, far as my instincts are telling me, George Carlin and his ilk would side with the right if they were alive today.
    I don't know about that claim about Carlin. He was always critical of the PC police and feminists who pushed censorship, but I don't see him running into the right's arms had he lived longer, considering his equal distaste for social conservatives and religious fundamentalists. Convince me otherwise. I could see him aligning with some libertarians, but that's about as far right as I think he'd have gone. Dude hated authoritarians and sanctimonious social conservatives--something tells me policies like bans on transgendered military personnel wouldn't have sat well with him. I don't think he'd have been a fan of Hillary Clinton, but I really don't see him becoming a Trump NPC. Just because one might have problems with the worst aspects of the PC left doesn't necessarily mean they're going to align with the right. You're making a similar mistake to critics of Peterson who assume his distaste for left wing lunacy automatically makes him some sort of far right figurehead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ruined View Post
    women over here are still very feminine, I'd say it's the opposite. MEN are becoming more feminine, and instead of getting the cool "female" traits like sensitivity and open with emotions today's dudes inherited the more unlikable "female" traits like passivity and apologizing for things that aren't their fault.
    I like all of these traits lol. Apologize for me bb.

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