Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Ave View Post
Collectivism kills
To be part of group more helps, than prevents to stay alive for a human.
To be in a collective means to get a help and support from other people. The chances to be alive and feel better are higher at people which are part of a group, but not when they live single as hermits.

Think what you get from other people every day. What they made and do among what you are using for your pleasure and to be alive.
You was born by 2 people which rised you. You'd died without other people in the childhood. You'll die as being adult without other people supporting you directly and indirectly (by what you are using created and made by them before) - much quicker.

> Also natural does mean good

Means for better human's feelings. Your wishes are from your natural predispositions and when you do what you want - you feel better. Also often better from evolutional point, as bad predispositions give lesser chances to be alive and lead to lesser number of children.

I suppose I said an evident for you. You may reject this only by emotional and irrational factors.
Imagine yourself in a wild forrest without knowledge and things given to you by others. For example you've lost the memory totally and is naked. Only inborn instincts are at you and a wild nature without any other people. This nature will kill you without a group of other people, without collectivism which forms such groups, - during days.