Fp1 and Fp2 brain regions - Rationality vs. Irrationality?

[Petter]

No, it's you who don't really understand how jung / socionics works - it's not related to perceiving the world in terms of smell, sight, and so on - it's about higher oder cognitive functions. People who are extremely focussed on introverted judging functions can still eat and take a shower.

Yes I do... I am not talking about sight (V1, see above) etc... I am talking about higher order cognitive functions. In order to make any judgements, you need some kind of information. That is Se. Then you must match Se with Ti, so you must match strength, power, will etc with logic. However, that is not impossible. But matching socionics Te and Si is impossible.

[FDG]

Yes I do... I am not talking about sight (V1, see above) etc... I am talking about higher order cognitive functions. In order to make any judgements, you need some kind of information. That is Se. Then you must match Se with Ti, so you must match [COLOR=#333333]strength, power, will etc with logic. .

A person who uses primarly Se and supports it with Ti is a SLE in socionics...

[Petter]

A person who uses primarly Se and supports it with Ti is a SLE in socionics...

You are still missing the point. Whether Se is dominant or not is irrelevant. Se must match Ti, and Si must match Te. Coziness, state of health, comfort... doesn't match instrument, tool, effectiveness...

[Exodus]

You are still missing the point. Whether Se is dominant or not is irrelevant. Se must match Ti, and Si must match Te. Coziness, state of health, comfort... doesn't match instrument, tool, effectiveness...

Knowledge of how things work (Te) is very important for health (Si). Just look at the medical profession, it's literally all about how to use knowledge of how your body works to improve or maintain its state of health. That's Te + Si.

[Petter]

Knowledge of how things work (Te) is very important for health (Si). Just look at the medical profession, it's literally all about how to use knowledge of how your body works to improve or maintain its state of health. That's Te + Si.

That's a really far-fetched explanation. How do you explain Si when it comes to a mechanic (SLI, SiTe... in your view)?

Mechanic and physician are two very different professions, which attract two very different groups of people (i.e. types).

[Exodus]

That's a really far-fetched explanation. How do you explain Si when it comes to a mechanic (SLI, SiTe... in your view)?

Mechanic and physician are two very different professions, which attract two very different groups of people (i.e. types).

I think that's a very straightforward explanation actually. The IM elements are general enough to include a wide range of activities. I wouldn't expect 1/16 of the population to be mechanics.

But the process of diagnosing mechanical issues with a car is essentially the same as with the body of a human being: you look for symptoms (such as weird sounds), and try to get it back in working order. The goal is to keep it or get it back in good shape so that it benefits the user. You could say Si is more generally about physical condition.

[Petter]

I think that's a very straightforward explanation actually. The IM elements are general enough to include a wide range of activities. I wouldn't expect 1/16 of the population to be mechanics.

It is far-fetched in the sense that it only explains one profession.

You cannot have it both ways. SiTe (ego) cannot both explain the medical profession and be general enough to include all professions.

But the process of diagnosing mechanical issues with a car is essentially the same as with the body of a human being: you look for symptoms (such as weird sounds), and try to get it back in working order. The goal is to keep it or get it back in good shape so that it benefits the user. You could say Si is more generally about physical condition.

This is far-fetched... and it has nothing to do with Si in Socionics.

[Myst]

It wasn't intended as a conclusion. If intelligence is distributed to also include the input processors of the brain, there's no reason why each processor couldn't have their own type characteristics. You had stated that "cognition is still dependent on different physical parts of the brain" but in order for Socionics theory to hold water, wouldn't type type have to be central in order that uniform characteristics be applicable to the entirety of information processing?.......

a.k.a. I/O

Quick q, do you have the link to your article on info processing with IEs at hand? (The article about your ideas that you also refer to in your avatar.) I'd like to add something about it for you.

Heh, btw, "uniform characteristics be applicable to the entirety of information processing", that's kind of trying to bite off too much with a simplistic model.

excellent... btw that's mutual

Good. Except I was not doing the personal bullcrap.

Knowledge of how things work (Te) is very important for health (Si). Just look at the medical profession, it's literally all about how to use knowledge of how your body works to improve or maintain its state of health. That's Te + Si. (...) But the process of diagnosing mechanical issues with a car is essentially the same as with the body of a human being: you look for symptoms (such as weird sounds), and try to get it back in working order. The goal is to keep it or get it back in good shape so that it benefits the user. You could say Si is more generally about physical condition.

Actually you can approach that and all other "ST topics" with Ti/Se too, it's just going to be a different approach ofc, and less optimal for certain things compared to Si/Te (and vice versa).