That could be just as well the case with the former example. Seems naive to think otherwise.
So could saccharine love. The examples didn’t make that clear at all lol.Otherwise, you just have a form of social coercion.
If that’s the case then it’d have to not only be pretentious but very roundabout.That's all I was saying in that first post that you apparently found demeaning, just in more pretentious language.