Alpha NTs & Sexual Impulse (ENTp,INTj sexuality)
Alpha NTs, what is your approx age range (e.g. teens, 20s, 30s, etc) and how often does sex naturally cross your mind? Is it usually absent unless suggested to you by an outside source, or do you naturally find imaginations arising in you throughout your day??
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lmao - doing market research for future duality?Originally Posted by Xaiviay
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"I take back like half of the exclamation points.....they make me look....eager to please. Which I AM....but I don't want anyone to KNOW that"
- Carrie Fisher
You know itlmao - doing market research for future duality?
Probably right there in suggestive area. Hard to realize that much at least compared to others.
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this should more correlate with the level of hormones than types
Ummm, well at least a few times a day if left to my own imagination. But it's not the kind of sex I could have irl, unless I actually tried to find people soley as sexual partners but half the satisfaction for me would be to discover sexual interest with people's whose personality is familiar to me. Idc what turns me on I probably will just wait until I find someone emotionally responsive and compatible first.
I love the idea of comparing and contrasting behaviour when not aroused versus when aroused.
edit: I might not be an alpha nt woops, let's just keep this here though
Thank you for your responses thus far and I can assure you myself and other SEIs are eager to hear your NT feedback on this with all sincerity. Not trying to expose you - just need to know some of this stuff ... Unless the types are doomed to usually being the proverbial 2 ships passing in the night ... Consider this not as media broadcasting so much as helping your duals know how they can make you happier in this arena. =)
~* astralsilky
Each essence is a separate glass,
Through which Sun of Being’s Light is passed,
Each tinted fragment sparkles with the Sun,
A thousand colors, but the Light is One.
Jami, 15th c. Persian Poet
Post types & fully individuated before 2012 ...
n- n- never!!!!
Ok fine, stay celibate.n- n- never!!!!
lol
~* astralsilky
Each essence is a separate glass,
Through which Sun of Being’s Light is passed,
Each tinted fragment sparkles with the Sun,
A thousand colors, but the Light is One.
Jami, 15th c. Persian Poet
Post types & fully individuated before 2012 ...
I don't know if I am Alpha NT, but it's a possibility. I have an incredibly high sex drive. I'm 37 and I think about sex multiple times a day.
I suffered through my early 20s with over 20x an hour. I don't need outside stimulus to get in the mood heh!
~* astralsilky
Each essence is a separate glass,
Through which Sun of Being’s Light is passed,
Each tinted fragment sparkles with the Sun,
A thousand colors, but the Light is One.
Jami, 15th c. Persian Poet
Post types & fully individuated before 2012 ...
The alpha NT I know identifies as asexual. He accepts Beta pervyness but doesn't really indulge in it.
I think some LII's can be very upfront about that to a point of going into specific details. I really think Nebula could be one...
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Like picturing a hot woman sitting on my facelol
I somehow picture this kind of dude as one of your possible reincarnations:Like picturing a hot woman sitting on my face
I think he was LII.
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Sexual drive is independent of type and often overrides cognitive function; type would likely be related to how one might attempt to control or satisfy one's drive - vigorous exercise does seem to take the edge off. Drives must firstly reside within before any external stimulation can add fuel to the fire.......
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Without going into sordid details, it is true that intertype relations greatly affect the quality of encounters wrt style and technique. My general advice to all is to stay within your Quadra or else Supervision. [Identical relations are an incredible experience but maybe that's just coz I'm an SEI-Si and Si is the cognitive function processing sensuality and bodily experiences].
~* astralsilky
Each essence is a separate glass,
Through which Sun of Being’s Light is passed,
Each tinted fragment sparkles with the Sun,
A thousand colors, but the Light is One.
Jami, 15th c. Persian Poet
Post types & fully individuated before 2012 ...
I would recommend that sexual expression be given as a gift to the Alpha NT. Give it, and make sure it is like a present. An early Christmas gift. Give it often. This is for a reason. As an LII, I am afraid of Fi and respond with politeness to the idea of truly knowing that somebody likes me. I am actually afraid of my opinions of others. To discuss the opinion that you hold of someone will only make LIIs polite and shy. I cannot say that I am your friend or not your friend, because I cannot know that. I will always be polite but a little distant.
In my shyness, I am enormously sensual. I snuggle my pillow when I wake up. I like to eat. I will never become confident that my opinion of you is important enough for me to tell you! But I cannot escape my sensuality. The gift of sexual love, being offered freely to a LII, is the gift of that which they process as an addiction. The addiction to Si is inescapable. It is completely subjective, completely introverted. There is no way I can make contact to another person socially with my addiction to the sensual. I cannot process Fi without fear. I process Si without any filters. Talk to me about a relationship and I will be quiet, polite, and afraid of my own opinion. Give me sensuality and I will take it. Give LIIs sensuality.
How to give this gift?
Remove Fi from the gift. Don't talk about your feelings. Talk about going to get a burrito. Bring up the color of your nipples by accident, using Fe not Fi. Ask me if you like nipples that color. Ask me what are the funniest looking nipples you have seen. Keep using Fe and not Fi. To not address your feelings. I am afraid of Fi. Laugh and smile a lot. Give the sex as a present. Start with food. Switch to Fe, talk about how much you love puppy dogs. Do you eat burritos? Change the subject often between types of Fe and types of Si. Talk about how much you love this breed of dogs. Ask do you have a dog? Then eventually say "I have hard nipples." On occasion, complement my Ti. Say "You are smart like a professor." Give the gift - say "Professors are so sexy."
After the sex, I will lock my Fi onto you. I will be politely devoted forever. I am afraid of my opinions. After sex and food, my fear of Fi is gone.
Socionics -
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Best post I've ever read in this forum yet. Thank you so much and be blessed for all eternity. Omg you don't know how grateful Alpha SFs are to you for your disclosure. Thank you for your candid participation.
~* astralsilky
Each essence is a separate glass,
Through which Sun of Being’s Light is passed,
Each tinted fragment sparkles with the Sun,
A thousand colors, but the Light is One.
Jami, 15th c. Persian Poet
Post types & fully individuated before 2012 ...
This is amazing. Definitely like the talk of nipple colors and shapes and textures... I should think about that more often. Maybe I will bother to add something I would like too after I get home.
This thread is turning into sexionics and cognitive fuctions. May her nipples glisten in the morning son. *cheers
With respect to LIIs, there must be other issues at work here. Healthy LIIs seem to hold themselves aloof or in a sort of self-imposed isolation, but social shyness, fear and lack of confidence seem rather unusual; many do seem to fear their own incompetence, however. As well, they're not normally addictive personalities because they're fairly detached and objective by nature. I agree that they can be sensual (most of it remains in their heads) but they seem to deliver sensuality in a sort of ESE-provide-the-best-service way. Relationships with ESI seem common so actually fearing Fi from an external source seems unlikely - and as far as fearing their own Fi aspects, one normally doesn't fear what one largely ignores or is unaware of.......
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Question: Do Alpha NTs feel more bonded to their partner after sex than the average person does?
Based on my experience with ILEs I wouldn’t be surprised if this were the case.
The first ILE I slept with who had a micropenis (not my current boyfriend) clung to my back afterwards like a baby koala. Wtf species is this? Is what I was thinking. I was deeply disturbed.
And most guys basically roll over and sleep or the equivalent right after sex. These guys though remained as cuddly and chatty as ever. I remember consciously noticing this and finding it unusual the first time it happened with my boyfriend. I could see how it might be related to Super-Id Fe and Si.
I cannot agree with this more. @vesstheastralsilky there are guys who prefer all body types. I've known some that prefer them 'stick-thin' with almost 0 curves, and some that even like them on the chubby side. It's true that most prefer a curvier, softer-bodied woman than the ones we see on Victoria Secret commercials, though, and for most women it wouldn't be healthy to look like they do, anyway. Many of them dehydrate themselves before each photo-shoot because it makes them look extra thin and chiseled - so it just goes to show how their look is impossible to maintain.
So yeah, just be healthy, whatever that looks like for you!
You have no idea how much I'd value this - cuddly and chatty after sex, just what I need.
IME they tend to be more quiet even when they linger.
~* astralsilky
Each essence is a separate glass,
Through which Sun of Being’s Light is passed,
Each tinted fragment sparkles with the Sun,
A thousand colors, but the Light is One.
Jami, 15th c. Persian Poet
Post types & fully individuated before 2012 ...
Maybe it depends on subtype? At any rate, communicating after sex sounds good to me
Well I found out on some level that at least some do ... I can't share the details!!
~* astralsilky
Each essence is a separate glass,
Through which Sun of Being’s Light is passed,
Each tinted fragment sparkles with the Sun,
A thousand colors, but the Light is One.
Jami, 15th c. Persian Poet
Post types & fully individuated before 2012 ...
It's Friday night & everyone else is too busy for sexionics. :sigh: This feels tragic. Too many lonely nights in my adult life...
~* astralsilky
Each essence is a separate glass,
Through which Sun of Being’s Light is passed,
Each tinted fragment sparkles with the Sun,
A thousand colors, but the Light is One.
Jami, 15th c. Persian Poet
Post types & fully individuated before 2012 ...
I think they’re pervier than their Si ego counterparts.
Perversions seem linked more to animal instincts than type. However, LIIs certainly don't have the tools to be as socially slick as SLEs.
a.k.a. I/O
Lol. I never know what you’re getting at when you talk this way. You should create one of those random automatic phrase generators for yourself for Socionics blurbs, it would be a great educational tool.Perversions seem linked more to animal instincts than type. However, LIIs certainly don't have the tools to be as socially slick as SLEs.
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I should have said “hornier” or “more sexually charged” instead.
That might be true.is conscious after all. LOL.
Like fidgeting around rhythmically is not really consciousbut according to some sources that is quite
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Fidgeting is Te?That might be true.
Like fidgeting around rhythmically is not really conscious
Oh no the thread has devolved into Gamma fidgeting instead of Alpha sensuality :'(
Do Alpha NTs like lingerie or is it a barrier to the goal as some guys have told me?
What about silky sheets and what about music that puts you in the mood?
Sexy music to me was always by groups like Depeche Mode and Underworld and Slowdive. [Edited for TMI] The wrong music can hinder the experience - like bad restaurant jazz or most r&b pop. Thoughts??
What about your partner's body type? MUST she be outrageously beyond perfectly voluptuous in body before you would give in, or do you offer more grace than that like for feeling and/or compatibility?
~* astralsilky
Each essence is a separate glass,
Through which Sun of Being’s Light is passed,
Each tinted fragment sparkles with the Sun,
A thousand colors, but the Light is One.
Jami, 15th c. Persian Poet
Post types & fully individuated before 2012 ...
Do Alpha NTs like lingerie or is it a barrier to the goal as some guys have told me? Lingerie is sexy, especially lingerie that is translucent
What about silky sheets and what about music that puts you in the mood? Silky sheets are sensual. I like them. Some jazzy music gets me in the mood, but so does some NIN. It is hard to pinpoint exactly. This kind of thing can change on circumstances.
What about your partner's body type? MUST she be outrageously beyond perfectly voluptuous in body before you would give in, or do you offer more grace than that like for feeling and/or compatibility? Different body types are attractive. It depends how everything comes together.
My ILE is obsessed with it. He gets upset if I don’t wear it.
Silkier sheets probably help him on an unconscious level but I highly doubt he would consciously notice such things unless the difference was pointed out to him. He does notice music and comments on the romanticness levels of different types. Feelsy electronic/hipster or not bad jazz or light focus/study music is ideal I think.What about silky sheets and what about music that puts you in the mood?
He’s told me he wasn’t really interested in going further with women who were non-curvy. He started relationships with women based on compatibility first and foremost, but physical features were a dealbreaker in pushing things along physically.What about your partner's body type? MUST she be outrageously beyond perfectly voluptuous in body before you would give in, or do you offer more grace than that like for feeling and/or compatibility?
OMG no wonder I couldn't get laid all those years I was a size 0-2. No one hardly ever pursued me for sex until I thought I weighed too much. The fashion ads they are a'lyin' to us. This makes me rethink a lot because I started dieting again. My fiance says he wanted me to GAIN even more and I was so shocked at first I cried and thought he was being sarcastic and trying to insult me but no, he was serious. Everything you've written here is most helpful. I can't thank you enough!!!
~* astralsilky
Each essence is a separate glass,
Through which Sun of Being’s Light is passed,
Each tinted fragment sparkles with the Sun,
A thousand colors, but the Light is One.
Jami, 15th c. Persian Poet
Post types & fully individuated before 2012 ...
Lmao alright.
Don’t do anything unhealthy though. Congrats on the fiancé. Eat more saturated fats and get some exercise in. Should be good. I’m taller than and weigh more than my BF btw. IDGAF.
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