Feather's typing thread (Near-anniversary edition)

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Orderly-ish is the key word. Whenever I have to write a serious, detailed post about my thought process or add actual, constructive content (like in the post replying to Xai and others above) I die a little inside. That post got edited three times, I kid you not, and it's because I kept omitting details that I wanted to mention because my mind would just go "oooh shiny" and forget what I even wanted to reach with that post. It's visible in the video too, I think, when the rambling gets more intense near the end. And it's apparent in real life as well.
I have "epiphanies" sometimes or insights. But i cannot share them with others because it's just so damn hard doing so. It's like I'm in a sea (my mind) and I kept getting swept right off my feet by waves that keep rolling and crashing into me (the thoughts that make up the epiphany). The picture, realisation, whateverthefuckitis makes perfect sense to me, but it takes some mental effort in order to put it into words that don't confuse people more than anything.
But yes, I like thinking that despite how hard it is, I'm doing a good job when compared to other Ne egos

This right here is interesting.

The fact you have trouble connecting words to mental images or ideas could indicate irrationality. Rationals will struggle with this alot less imo. It's like the words are already "there" for rationals, this does not ensure coherence in how they express themselves, just that they already know what to say before they say it.

Keep in mind what SmilingEyes said about the difference between the two:

Rationality: Object of thought defines me
Irrtaionality: I define object of thought.

Basically, for rationals, attention to thoughts and feelings precede things like attention to sensory impressions and mental images, perceptions etc. What I mean is that rationals choose to focus their attention on sensory input and mental images that make sense from their system of value judgements, whereas it seems irrationals have a more unfiletered mode of attention: everything goes in, and then it is sorted out. Of course rationals also perceive things like sensory inputs, they can't turn off their five senses, but less attention is payed to sensory impressions that don't enter into their train of thought (especially intuitive rationals I think).

[Chthonic Daydream]

This right here is interesting.

The fact you have trouble connecting words to mental images or ideas could indicate irrationality. Rationals will struggle with this alot less imo. It's like the words are already "there" for rationals, this does not ensure coherence in how they express themselves, just that they already know what to say before they say it.

Keep in mind what SmilingEyes said about the difference between the two:

Rationality: Object of thought defines me
Irrtaionality: I define object of thought.

Basically, for rationals, attention to thoughts and feelings precede things like attention to sensory impressions and mental images, perceptions etc. What I mean is that rationals choose to focus their attention on sensory input and mental images that make sense from their system of value judgements, whereas it seems irrationals have a more unfiletered mode of attention: everything goes in, and then it is sorted out. Of course rationals also perceive things like sensory inputs, they can't turn off their five senses, but less attention is payed to sensory impressions that don't enter into their train of thought (especially intuitive rationals I think).

Yeah I struggle with it but not an awful lot. It just makes me feel awkward whenever I try to explain things as if a janitor tried teaching you about rocket science.
As for the "Everything goes in" part, I disagree in certain cases.
For example, i will under no circumstance accept conspiracy theories such as the Queen being a reptilian alien or the Earth being flat. This being said, I will also not stand the attitude of someone who is not acting at least half like a decent human being, as I mentioned in the video. They will be judged if they are dicks, that is to be expected.
But other than that, I don't have strong opinions about ANYTHING because I found out that they are always changing

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Yeah I struggle with it but not an awful lot. It just makes me feel awkward whenever I try to explain things as if a janitor tried teaching you about rocket science.
As for the "Everything goes in" part, I disagree in certain cases.
For example, i will under no circumstance accept conspiracy theories such as the Queen being a reptilian alien or the Earth being flat. This being said, I will also not stand the attitude of someone who is not acting at least half like a decent human being, as I mentioned in the video. They will be judged if they are dicks, that is to be expected.
But other than that, I don't have strong opinions about ANYTHING because I found out that they are always changing

That's not what I meant tho. Those are actually judgements (albeit bad ones lol) not perceptions. I was talking about perceptions, sensory and intutive. Beliefs about the queen being a reptilian or the earth being flat are judgements, because they state their differnece with another judgement (ones actually based on fact).

Also, judging people does not exclude you from being an irrational type, I think alot of people want others to be half-decent human beings.

A few more things, I noticed you cuss alot, which is something that is absent from the speech of deltas I know. It's like they are afraid of being provocative, and it's like you do it not because you are angry, just to add a little bawdiness and atmosphere maybe? Like, slight provocation? Not sure. I know this sounds silly, I'm not saying there is some rule that says deltas can't or don't cuss, just that I notice they always try to appear "proper" and "educated" and not come off as provoking others. Which generally means not swearing. Not that you appear uneducated or improper, you just have a more provocative style than deltas I come across. edit: I do know an EII who says provocative things, so maybe I'm on the wrong trail with this...

I know this might seem awkward for you btw, to have your behaviors put under a microscope like that, and I don't mean to make you uncomfortable, just something to consider.

With all that I think IEI is more likely, though not certain. Delta NFs are the "psychologists", they give relational advice, come off old and wise in their attitudes even if they are young, lol. Their advice is often telling people to not react to provocation, like for example in conflicts. You also talk alot about your plans of becoming a writer, about success, etc, and this seems more . The romanticism you have towards life and the future (at least it seems that way to me) strikes me as beta. The way you talk about your trip to London for example, it's very vivid, it expresses yearing to be there again, to have future and career there (!) and yet you poke fun of the negatives in a way that is funny.

I relate to you, based on this kind of youthful yearing for the future you seem to have, in other words through . I do not get semi-dual or benefactor vibes from you.

Another possibility is EIE, though seem softer and more introverted so I'd go with IEI.

Even though I scratched out the cussing argument, the rest still stands.

[Chthonic Daydream]

That's not what I meant tho. Those are actually judgements (albeit bad ones lol) not perceptions. I was talking about perceptions, sensory and intutive. Beliefs about the queen being a reptilian or the earth being flat are judgements, because they state their differnece with another judgement (ones actually based on fact).

Also, judging people does not exclude you from being an irrational type, I think alot of people want others to be half-decent human beings.

A few more things, I noticed you cuss alot, which is something that is absent from the speech of deltas I know. It's like they are afraid of being provocative, and it's like you do it not because you are angry, just to add a little bawdiness and atmosphere maybe? Like, slight provocation? Not sure. I know this sounds silly, I'm not saying there is some rule that says deltas can't or don't cuss, just that I notice they always try to appear "proper" and "educated" and not come off as provoking others. Which generally means not swearing. Not that you appear uneducated or improper, you just have a more provocative style than deltas I come across. edit: I do know an EII who says provocative things, so maybe I'm on the wrong trail with this...

I know this might seem awkward for you btw, to have your behaviors put under a microscope like that, and I don't mean to make you uncomfortable, just something to consider.

With all that I think IEI is more likely, though not certain. Delta NFs are the "psychologists", they give relational advice, come off old and wise in their attitudes even if they are young, lol. Their advice is often telling people to not react to provocation, like for example in conflicts. You also talk alot about your plans of becoming a writer, about success, etc, and this seems more . The romanticism you have towards life and the future (at least it seems that way to me) strikes me as beta. The way you talk about your trip to London for example, it's very vivid, it expresses yearing to be there again, to have future and career there (!) and yet you poke fun of the negatives in a way that is funny.

I relate to you, based on this kind of youthful yearing for the future you seem to have, in other words through . I do not get semi-dual or benefactor vibes from you.

Another possibility is EIE, though seem softer and more introverted so I'd go with IEI.

Even though I scratched out the cussing argument, the rest still stands.

wow, thanks!
The cussing bit is more or less true, actually. Not sure why you scratched it because it is 70% valid, in my experience.
And no worries- If I was so uncomfortable about having my behaviour under a microscope then do you think I would make a whole video and thread about it? Like I said, it's okay to dissect me like a lab rat, but please do so in the least gruesome manner (which you did <3 ).


The bit out there about delta NFs is also very much true. I think if an LSE came to me for counsel they would rip their hair out when they see how I treat Fi. I think it's still strong, but it's not something I keep track of thaaat much.
Someone once came to me for relationship counsel. They told me they never had a fulfilling relationship and I replied with a meme ("This is so sad, Alexa, play despacito"). Luckily, the said person really appreciated the joke. And i KNEW (more or less) that they would, otherwise I wouldn't gamble with someone's feelings like that.

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wow, thanks!
The cussing bit is more or less true, actually. Not sure why you scratched it because it is 70% valid, in my experience.
And no worries- If I was so uncomfortable about having my behaviour under a microscope then do you think I would make a whole video and thread about it? Like I said, it's okay to dissect me like a lab rat, but please do so in the least gruesome manner (which you did <3 ).


The bit out there about delta NFs is also very much true. I think if an LSE came to me for counsel they would rip their hair out when they see how I treat Fi. I think it's still strong, but it's not something I keep track of thaaat much.
Someone once came to me for relationship counsel. They told me they never had a fulfilling relationship and I replied with a meme ("This is so sad, Alexa, play despacito"). Luckily, the said person really appreciated the joke. And i KNEW (more or less) that they would, otherwise I wouldn't gamble with someone's feelings like that.

I'm glad you like my analysis - the thing is, I am not certain I am on the right path when I type people because it's not something I have been trained to do (obviously) so I'm happy to have feedback the person being typed feels is accurate.

Yeah, I don't see any in your posts or video or shoutbox messages.

What do you think about my analysis of you using , mainly with respect to how you see the future? And do you relate to being "romantic"? Not necessarily in a cheesy romcom way (though I get you enjoy that ) but more like envisioning a hamonious future that unfolds according to your dreams and plans? Do you think your approach towards having a career as a writer could indicate , mainly in that it is a goal to attain that requires willpower to bring into being? You don't have to address all these questions in a systemaic manner btw, just let your thoughts on this subject flow.

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I'm glad you like my analysis - the thing is, I am not certain I am on the right path when I type people because it's not something I have been trained to do (obviously) so I'm happy to have feedback the person being typed feels is accurate.

Yeah, I don't see any in your posts or video or shoutbox messages.

What do you think about my analysis of you using , mainly with respect to how you see the future? And do you relate to being "romantic"? Not necessarily in a cheesy romcom way (though I get you enjoy that ) but more like envisioning a hamonious future that unfolds according to your dreams and plans? Do you think your approach towards having a career as a writer could indicate , mainly in that it is a goal to attain that requires willpower to bring into being? You don't have to address all these questions in a systemaic manner btw, just let your thoughts on this subject flow.

The thing with my "vision of life" is that it's not entirely mapped out. It's like my path is clear, but the destination isn't, like Tolkien's quote "Not all who wander are lost", you know? As for the Se thing, oh boy. Need me some of that because I am deprived of it. I am easily discouraged by the opposition due to my abysmal self-esteem and would need some help in tackling challenges along the way. Anything, from speeches or articles like THIS one (who I found mirrors a bit of my attitude, so I suggest reading it: https://mandywallace.com/are-you-really-a-writer/ ) to someone giving me metaphorical kicks in the bottom as a means to help me mobilise.
This doesn't apply to just writing, despite that article bein about it- It applies to every area of my life.
I am a miracle. I have no opened a textbook in one whole year because I hate it so much and have 0 motivation to push through with all that needless regurgitation of uninteresting info, and yet I manage to have maximum grades. My saving grace is also the fact that I'm heavily involved in the artistic side of this dead high school/town so it makes a few teachers close an eye whenever I slip up.
But yeah, willpower is tricky for me. But stuff like that article gives me a foolish silver of ambition sometimes.
Imagine an amateurish Romanian writer working his way to winning a Carnegie medal or a Locus award. Yep, not too realistic but it never hurts thinking about it.