idk if I physically force you to do something is that blowing up your rationale, assuming its not something you've already agreed to do? if I tell you "its better this way" does that make it so, from your point of view? the fact that one is on the conceptual level and the other is concrete doesn't really change the fundamental dynamic. so this idea that Ne is "harmless" from the point of view of xSI is naive, because it presupposes that rationale is unimportant compared to bodily integrity, but people are free to feel the opposite, and in fact the people who feel that way tend to get their way because they feel that way and the reason they get their way speaks to the truth of their method, which is to say power speaks for itself.. this idea that Ne is more true is actually backwards, Ne is less true, because the proof is in the pudding. this whole idea that Ne is concerned with "doing things the right WAY" is misleading, because it skews what is "right" at the root and begs the question on its own validity, which is precisely how it "steals" power from xSI. it invites people to be weak because it is in fact weak, it lulls people into a false sense of morality centered around pacifism and steals the rational highground on little more than an irrational preference. if you don't see this as problematic perhaps you ought to engage your Ne some more. the bottom line is the conflict is in some sense intractable, and this is what gives rise to centrality and peripheral quadra. peace is a lie, in short and anyone selling peace is simply propping up their own laziness first of all, and second of all they're trading the future for a present payoff, because that kind of fattening up is always for the slaughter. in essence these people can take themselves out of play, but no one has to abide their lies. they spend their entire existence trying to pass these lies off on their own environment as a form of self defense and it all comes at the expense of everyone else. its fake benevolence. parents undermine their own children with this bullshit. you see it happening a lot in the culture of participation prizes and so forth, where the dumbest people band together and occupy the positions of prominence on a lie until the whole thing falls apart under the weight of its own corruption and incompetence. its true whats good for you isn't good for them and its not because you're somehow more concerned with "right" its because you're weak