See what Big 5 traits you are visually attracted to!

[Xaiviay]

@squark and @FDG, agreed, agreeableness is a very Fe-lead trait! The EIE men I know are very popular with everyone, including women.

It's interesting how these traits appear differently to different people. The high conscientious man makes me feel 'pent up', like my freedom would be restricted by him. I can see how low conscientiousness would look untrustworthy, too. These people can be 'flaky' D:

@WinnieW you listed agreeableness first, too! ESE Fe-leads

[WinnieW]

@squark and @FDG, agreed, agreeableness is a very Fe-lead trait! The EIE men I know are very popular with everyone, including women.

I guess people have different partner preferences. I know also women who prefer disagreeable guys, because it's a sign of being assertive and successful for them.
But and are just different styles of assertiveness, to my perception.
is factual driven, is value driven

I can see how low conscientiousness would look untrustworthy, too. These people can be 'flaky' D:

Did you just call me untrustworthy and flaky?... ... ...
...no, I'm kidding. All is well.

@WinnieW you listed agreeableness first, too! ESE Fe-leads

Yeah, I know.
There are 2 alpha SF in my family.
My aunt is ESE. She has that "you before me" cargiver style. (80% Spongebob-style, in a positive, likeable way)
My mum is SEI, most likely no-subtype or SEI-Si

That's my life... I grew up with my dual and my semi-dual activator.

[Xaiviay]

I guess people have different partner preferences. I know also women who prefer disagreeable guys, because it's a sign of being assertive.
But and are just different styles of assertiveness, to my perception.
is factual driven, is value driven

Yeah no kidding. Probably those women are Ni-egos xP Actually, the disagreeable face was the one that turned me off the most out of all of them. But idk, maybe not all caregivers would agree with me.
Te and Fe are also assertive, yes.

Did you just call me untrustworthy and flaky?... ... ...
...no, I'm kidding. All is well.

Hahaha hey, I scored 0% on conscientiousness in the last Big 5 test I took I'd be insulting myself if I thought all low-conscientious people were that way.

Yeah, I know.
There are 2 alpha SF in my family.
My aunt is ESE. She has that "you before me" cargiver style. (80% Spongebob-style, in a positive, likeable way)
My mum is SEI, most likely no-subtype or SEI-Si

That's my life... I grew up with my dual and my semi-dual.

Yup, I've seen what you mean with how hospitable ESEs are, very generous and likeable! Well gosh, I envy you. That's awesome!! I wish I had some Alpha NTs around me while growing up But, there's still the possibility of finding a dual, one day

Well, the two faces that appealed to me the most were high openness and high emotional stability. Seems like that bears some similarity to Ne/Ti egos, maybe?

[WinnieW]

Yeah no kidding. Probably those women are Ni-egos xP

or / and either seeking or valuing, I think.
I doubt that the vast majority of alpha SF type people are attracted to disagreeable people.
And alpha SF people are more agreeable than alpha NT people, I guess. Sometimes I can be shockingly disagreeable in debates... when my thinking preference takes over.

Hahaha hey, I scored 0% on conscientiousness in the last Big 5 test I took I'd be insulting myself if I thought all low-conscientious people were that way.

Low conscientiousness because the own comfort zone is so comfortable?
My conscientiousness is low because I spend too much time with observing and generating contextual connections... means a lot of time in my head and thinking.
It's easier for me to switch between five different topics in one minute than to stay focused on just one task for hours.

Yup, I've seen what you mean with how hospitable ESEs are, very generous and likeable! Well gosh, I envy you.

Thank you. My aunt has her own family and I see her only once in a while.

I wish I had some Alpha NTs around me while growing up But, there's still the possibility of finding a dual, one day

I wish you luck.

Well, the two faces that appealed to me the most were high openness and high emotional stability. Seems like that bears some similarity to Ne/Ti egos, maybe?

Openness is losely related to intuition. Emotional stability is not related to cognitive functions, afaik.

[Xaiviay]

or / and either seeking or valuing, I think.
I doubt that the vast majority of alpha SF type people are attracted to disagreeable people.
And alpha SF people are more agreeable than alpha NT people, I guess. Sometimes I can be shockingly disagreeable in debates... when my thinking preference takes over.

Hm, yeah that theory makes sense to me.
Mm-hm, but it's like, you're being 'disagreeable' because you're sticking to the version of the facts exactly as you see it, not sparing other people's feelings. Or at least, that's how I perceive it (thinking of people like Jordan Peterson, for instance, who I like listening to a lot).

Low conscientiousness because the own comfort zone is so comfortable?
My conscientiousness is low because I spend too much time with observing and generating contextual connections... means a lot of time in my head and thinking.
It's easier for me to switch between five different topics in one minute than to stay focused on just one task for hours.

Yeah, that's probably accurate. I don't like having a rigid schedule imposed on me. I'm comfortable living when things are unpredictable and disorganized...stereotypical irrational type behavior, maybe?
Ohh I see, you like to spend time thinking and exploring different topics more than acting out an organized lifestyle?

Thank you. My aunt has her own family and I see her only once in a while.

I wish you luck.

Ohh sorry you can't see her very often then :/ Hopefully you'll find some other ESEs to hang out with more often, if you haven't already. Thanks, also

Openness is losely related to intuition. Emotional stability is not related to cognitive functions, afaik.

Um, I thought that the Big 5 trait of emotional stability basically just rated how strongly you tend to feel your emotions in stressful situations, and that seems like something that would correlate with high/low feeling in Socionics. But I've never looked up a statistical reference for that, so I don't really know for sure. But yeah, Openness is somewhat intuition-related

[WinnieW]

Hm, yeah that theory makes sense to me.

Nice that you enjoyed my tiny lecture.

Mm-hm, but it's like, you're being 'disagreeable' because you're sticking to the version of the facts exactly as you see it, not sparing other people's feelings.

I'd not call it "version of facts", but rather my interpretation of the information I gathered.

Or at least, that's how I perceive it (thinking of people like Jordan Peterson, for instance, who I like listening to a lot).

I can't see Jordan Peterson as LII, because he use a lot of , more than

Yeah, that's probably accurate. I don't like having a rigid schedule imposed on me. I'm comfortable living when things are unpredictable and disorganized...stereotypical irrational type behavior, maybe?

Of course, as a SEI type you don't like much.
I might use , but i'm not aware of using it, and I don't have good control of

Ohh I see, you like to spend time thinking and exploring different topics more than acting out an organized lifestyle?

I try to find a proper balance between both of them.

Ohh sorry you can't see her very often then :/ Hopefully you'll find some other ESEs to hang out with more often, if you haven't already. Thanks, also

The problem is that ESE might be the type of my soulmaid, but definitly not the type of my mindmate.
Thank you.

Um, I thought that the Big 5 trait of emotional stability basically just rated how strongly you tend to feel your emotions in stressful situations, and that seems like something that would correlate with high/low feeling in Socionics.

Feeling is a rational function in the theory of C.G. Jung, but emotions itself are not rational.
But emotions are the foundation of feeling judgement.

[Xaiviay]

Nice that you enjoyed my tiny lecture.


I'd not call it "version of facts", but rather my interpretation of the information I gathered.

Ahh I see, gotcha Well I appreciate that idealogical consistency in LIIs, a lot of the time, it feels soothing to pay attention to.

I can't see Jordan Peterson as LII, because he use a lot of , more than

Really? I thought the demonstrative function can be pretty obvious too, right? He seems to be very Ti-dom and intuitive, imo.

Of course, as a SEI type you don't like much.
I might use , but i'm not aware of using it, and I don't have good control of

Yeahhh you understand me xD
Well at least you have there when you absolutely need it

The problem is that ESE might be the type of my soulmaid, but definitly not the type of my mindmate.
Thank you.

Really? Well that's a little depressing :/ Maybe you can find one who's more well developed all around. or who has learned how much benefit they can get from and so they'll really listen to your ideas? I kind of understand, though, since I don't like some things about most ILEs.

Feeling is a rational function in the theory of C.G. Jung, but emotions itself are not rational.
But emotions are the foundation of feeling judgement.

I see. Thanks for the input!

[Myst]

Feeling is a rational function in the theory of C.G. Jung, but emotions itself are not rational.
But emotions are the foundation of feeling judgement.

Emotions are not rational in the sense of not being considered but otherwise they do serve a purpose on their own too alright. Agreed, they are a foundation for Feeling judgment. Just less refined information processing.

The problem is that ESE might be the type of my soulmaid, but definitly not the type of my mindmate.
Thank you.

Hm yah idk how Socionics duality is supposed to work there?

[Exodus]

I did the test and it was quite difficult for me to dicide.
My favorites ranked: "High Agreeableness" followed by "High Openness" and "High Conscientiousness".

Similar to me.

Primarily for the women:

I liked high agreeableness, low emotional stability, high openness. (all of which sound like ESE traits)

Both extremes of conscientiousness were unattractive to me.

Extraversion - either is fine.