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    Red face See what Big 5 traits you are visually attracted to!

    Here is a collection of facial composites taken from this paper on the correlation between Big 5 traits and appearance. The results did find that people were able to accurately rate agreeableness, extraversion, and (for men) emotional stability just from looking at a person's face.

    For these first two images (one for women, one for men), I hid the text labeling the traits. This way you can pick which ones you find least/most attractive without any previous bias. Each pair of faces displays both extreme sides of a Big 5 trait. So for instance, one of the faces on top displays a high extraversion score, with the one directly below it displaying a low extraversion score (or introversion).
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    Now, here's the images with the descriptions showing so you can see which of the traits are associated with each facial composite:

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    What results did you get?! Go ahead and share them, if you like

    When I first saw them, I covered the trait descriptions with my fingers so I could test myself. The men's faces I found most attractive were the high aggreeableness, low conscientiousness, high emotional stability, and high openness, with a very slight preference for high extraversion. I thought this was pretty neat, because those were the behavior traits I already thought I would be attracted to.

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    The most immoral/destructive and fucked up dudes were the hottest to me. Figures.

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    ^ lol

    I liked low conscientiousness and low openness in male.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BandD View Post
    The most immoral/destructive and fucked up dudes were the hottest to me. Figures.
    Lol, or maybe you're just seeking very high levels of ;p
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    ^ lol

    I liked low conscientiousness and low openness in male.
    Interesting, kinda has the laid-back and sleepy-eyed look of SLIs?
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    High Conscientiousness and Low Agreeableness were the two that immediately stood out to me.
    Neat! We preferred opposites

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    i liked "high agreeableness" and "high openness"

    i disliked "high extraversion"
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    Quote Originally Posted by FDG View Post
    i liked "high agreeableness" and "high openness"

    i disliked "high extraversion"
    Actually when I saw the "high extraversion" face, I though - this woman is going to hit me with a rolling pin after 2 days of living together.
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    I liked high agreebleness and high extroversion.

    Quote Originally Posted by FDG View Post
    Actually when I saw the "high extraversion" face, I though - this woman is going to hit me with a rolling pin after 2 days of living together.
    The low agreebleness reminded of this girl I've known...who was a real bitch, though you couldn't tell at first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FDG View Post
    Actually when I saw the "high extraversion" face, I though - this woman is going to hit me with a rolling pin after 2 days of living together.
    Lol xD Hey introversion and agreeableness fits your dual, generally speaking.
    Quote Originally Posted by Avebury View Post
    The low agreebleness reminded of this girl I've known...who was a real bitch, though you couldn't tell at first.
    Interesting the correlations. The faces remind me of a lot of people I've known with similar traits, too

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    I did the test and it was quite difficult for me to dicide.
    My favorites ranked: "High Agreeableness" followed by "High Openness" and "High Conscientiousness".

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    lol not sure
    Another study says S and N wouldn’t be the best practical match:
    http://www.capt.org/jpt/pdfFiles/Mar...l_36_16_27.pdf

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    Quote Originally Posted by NAWTEASE View Post
    lol not sure
    Another study says S and N wouldn’t be the best practical match:
    http://www.capt.org/jpt/pdfFiles/Mar...l_36_16_27.pdf
    In my experience, I wouldn't have it any other way. My Si loves me some Ne Also, Si provides practicality, which Ne tends to lack.

    But, to each their own of course.

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    i like high openness + high agreeableness, but i only had a distinct preference for the 1st male on the first line (high agreeableness).

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    Quote Originally Posted by hag View Post
    I like authoritative types. Perhaps there is a correlation.

    Looking at the images again, my least favorites are High Agreeableness and Low ES.
    The women mostly look identical to me.
    Yeah, that seems to make sense. Strong leadership qualities do not correlate with high agreeableness or low emotional stability.
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    Only standout: Low emotional stability

    Well... checks out with my Dual...
    What type is your dual? If you don't mind telling.

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    I read that strong leadership correlates with extroversion

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    Quote Originally Posted by NAWTEASE View Post
    I read that strong leadership correlates with extroversion
    Yeah, I think I've read that somewhere too. It would make sense. It's easier to lead a group of people, if you're not as drained or overwhelmed by all the interpersonal interaction xD

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    Hm, I strongly preferred the highly agreeable man, and preferred emotional stability and extroversion. But, agreeableness more than any of the other traits.

    Among the women, I'd strongly prefer having a high conscientious friend over a low one. The low one looks like she'd be a pain in the ass, couldn't trust her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by squark View Post
    Hm, I strongly preferred the highly agreeable man
    ahah, i have a EIE friend who looks quite similar to the highly agreeable guy. He´s married though. When he was young, he was a real hit with the ladies.

    The high conscentious woman looked overworked and tired to me at first look.
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    @squark and @FDG, agreed, agreeableness is a very Fe-lead trait! The EIE men I know are very popular with everyone, including women.

    It's interesting how these traits appear differently to different people. The high conscientious man makes me feel 'pent up', like my freedom would be restricted by him. I can see how low conscientiousness would look untrustworthy, too. These people can be 'flaky' D:

    @WinnieW you listed agreeableness first, too! ESE Fe-leads

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xaiviay View Post
    @squark and @FDG, agreed, agreeableness is a very Fe-lead trait! The EIE men I know are very popular with everyone, including women.
    I guess people have different partner preferences. I know also women who prefer disagreeable guys, because it's a sign of being assertive and successful for them.
    But and are just different styles of assertiveness, to my perception.
    is factual driven, is value driven

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    I can see how low conscientiousness would look untrustworthy, too. These people can be 'flaky' D:
    Did you just call me untrustworthy and flaky?... ... ...
    ...no, I'm kidding. All is well.


    Quote Originally Posted by Xaiviay View Post
    @WinnieW you listed agreeableness first, too! ESE Fe-leads
    Yeah, I know.
    There are 2 alpha SF in my family.
    My aunt is ESE. She has that "you before me" cargiver style. (80% Spongebob-style, in a positive, likeable way)
    My mum is SEI, most likely no-subtype or SEI-Si

    That's my life... I grew up with my dual and my semi-dual activator.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WinnieW View Post
    I guess people have different partner preferences. I know also women who prefer disagreeable guys, because it's a sign of being assertive.
    But and are just different styles of assertiveness, to my perception.
    is factual driven, is value driven
    Yeah no kidding. Probably those women are Ni-egos xP Actually, the disagreeable face was the one that turned me off the most out of all of them. But idk, maybe not all caregivers would agree with me.
    Te and Fe are also assertive, yes.
    Did you just call me untrustworthy and flaky?... ... ...
    ...no, I'm kidding. All is well.
    Hahaha hey, I scored 0% on conscientiousness in the last Big 5 test I took I'd be insulting myself if I thought all low-conscientious people were that way.
    Yeah, I know.
    There are 2 alpha SF in my family.
    My aunt is ESE. She has that "you before me" cargiver style. (80% Spongebob-style, in a positive, likeable way)
    My mum is SEI, most likely no-subtype or SEI-Si

    That's my life... I grew up with my dual and my semi-dual.
    Yup, I've seen what you mean with how hospitable ESEs are, very generous and likeable! Well gosh, I envy you. That's awesome!! I wish I had some Alpha NTs around me while growing up But, there's still the possibility of finding a dual, one day

    Well, the two faces that appealed to me the most were high openness and high emotional stability. Seems like that bears some similarity to Ne/Ti egos, maybe?

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    They say opposites attract but I seem to be drawn to people with high levels of Emotional Stability.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xaiviay View Post
    Yeah no kidding. Probably those women are Ni-egos xP
    or / and either seeking or valuing, I think.
    I doubt that the vast majority of alpha SF type people are attracted to disagreeable people.
    And alpha SF people are more agreeable than alpha NT people, I guess. Sometimes I can be shockingly disagreeable in debates... when my thinking preference takes over.

    Quote Originally Posted by Xaiviay View Post
    Hahaha hey, I scored 0% on conscientiousness in the last Big 5 test I took I'd be insulting myself if I thought all low-conscientious people were that way.
    Low conscientiousness because the own comfort zone is so comfortable?
    My conscientiousness is low because I spend too much time with observing and generating contextual connections... means a lot of time in my head and thinking.
    It's easier for me to switch between five different topics in one minute than to stay focused on just one task for hours.

    Quote Originally Posted by Xaiviay View Post
    Yup, I've seen what you mean with how hospitable ESEs are, very generous and likeable! Well gosh, I envy you.
    Thank you. My aunt has her own family and I see her only once in a while.

    Quote Originally Posted by Xaiviay View Post
    I wish I had some Alpha NTs around me while growing up But, there's still the possibility of finding a dual, one day
    I wish you luck.

    Quote Originally Posted by Xaiviay View Post
    Well, the two faces that appealed to me the most were high openness and high emotional stability. Seems like that bears some similarity to Ne/Ti egos, maybe?
    Openness is losely related to intuition. Emotional stability is not related to cognitive functions, afaik.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WinnieW View Post
    or / and either seeking or valuing, I think.
    I doubt that the vast majority of alpha SF type people are attracted to disagreeable people.
    And alpha SF people are more agreeable than alpha NT people, I guess. Sometimes I can be shockingly disagreeable in debates... when my thinking preference takes over.
    Hm, yeah that theory makes sense to me.
    Mm-hm, but it's like, you're being 'disagreeable' because you're sticking to the version of the facts exactly as you see it, not sparing other people's feelings. Or at least, that's how I perceive it (thinking of people like Jordan Peterson, for instance, who I like listening to a lot).
    Low conscientiousness because the own comfort zone is so comfortable?
    My conscientiousness is low because I spend too much time with observing and generating contextual connections... means a lot of time in my head and thinking.
    It's easier for me to switch between five different topics in one minute than to stay focused on just one task for hours.
    Yeah, that's probably accurate. I don't like having a rigid schedule imposed on me. I'm comfortable living when things are unpredictable and disorganized...stereotypical irrational type behavior, maybe?
    Ohh I see, you like to spend time thinking and exploring different topics more than acting out an organized lifestyle?
    Thank you. My aunt has her own family and I see her only once in a while.

    I wish you luck.
    Ohh sorry you can't see her very often then :/ Hopefully you'll find some other ESEs to hang out with more often, if you haven't already. Thanks, also
    Openness is losely related to intuition. Emotional stability is not related to cognitive functions, afaik.
    Um, I thought that the Big 5 trait of emotional stability basically just rated how strongly you tend to feel your emotions in stressful situations, and that seems like something that would correlate with high/low feeling in Socionics. But I've never looked up a statistical reference for that, so I don't really know for sure. But yeah, Openness is somewhat intuition-related

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    I like low whatever except for agreeableness.

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    The high emotional stability and the low agreeableness in men are the most attractive to me. The most frightening is the low conscientiousness one, I get heebie jeebie vibes from him. The rest are neutral reaction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FDG View Post
    Actually when I saw the "high extraversion" face, I though - this woman is going to hit me with a rolling pin after 2 days of living together.
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    Some openness, may be neurotic, maybe agreeable in right context but bit indifferent when it comes to extroversion and conscientiousness.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xaiviay View Post
    Here is a collection of facial composites taken from this paper on the correlation between Big 5 traits and appearance. The results did find that people were able to accurately rate agreeableness, extraversion, and (for men) emotional stability just from looking at a person's face.

    For these first two images (one for women, one for men), I hid the text labeling the traits. This way you can pick which ones you find least/most attractive without any previous bias. Each pair of faces displays both extreme sides of a Big 5 trait. So for instance, one of the faces on top displays a high extraversion score, with the one directly below it displaying a low extraversion score (or introversion).

    (...)

    What results did you get?! Go ahead and share them, if you like

    When I first saw them, I covered the trait descriptions with my fingers so I could test myself. The men's faces I found most attractive were the high aggreeableness, low conscientiousness, high emotional stability, and high openness, with a very slight preference for high extraversion. I thought this was pretty neat, because those were the behavior traits I already thought I would be attracted to.
    For men:

    Most attractive: High Extraversion with its liveliness and fun/entertaining energy. Most influential on my instincts in terms of attractiveness.
    Then High Agreeableness was also obviously attractive with it being just really nice, less exciting than the High Extraversion one though.
    Low Emotional Stability was attractive-exciting some too even if I sensed this kind of person would be a bit more trouble than the High version. I think I was attracted to it being not so even emotionally? Some stimulation there lol. It would be more attractive than High Agreeableness if it were not for sensing the bit of trouble too. Haha idk if the bad kind of trouble though.
    High Conscientiousness was not exciting but acceptable fine, while Low Conscientiousness was exciting hence attractive somewhat but also untrustable, so that was a turn-off, would not easily pick it for a long term relationship unless they prove themselves I guess. Contradictory here with my instincts... liking it but also warning me with the rational decision (picking the trustable one) winning out in the end if necessary.
    And I picked Low Openness quite strongly over High Openness. High Openness was just a bit alien for some reason, and just too neutral too. Low Openness was comfortably relatable and trust inducing.
    Btw, least attractive here is Low Agreeableness overall (toooo much like me, I don't seek this in men), and then low Openness. The rest are okay.

    I guess in order: High Extraversion > High Agreeableness > Low Emotional Stability > Low Openness > whatever Conscientiousness (short-term relationship: Low, long-term relationship: High).

    In Socionics, as far as the correlations check out, a limbic SEE or ESE if going with the rational mind. But I think, emotionally stable ESE would be too boringly nice so not that one.


    For women:

    I pretty much like all of High Extraversion. High Agreeableness, High Conscientiousness and High Openness, all are nice positive fun attractive trustable. The High Emotional Stability one is also pretty ok. I really instinctually did NOT prefer the Low Emotional Stability and Low Openness ones here, funnily enough, when compared to their High opposites. Low Openness isn't too bad on its own tho', it's familiar with me looking like it too and same for Low Extraversion. Then Low Agreeableness looks too much like me, god, lol, I don't mind that one as much though, familiar and easy to deal with for me. Low Conscientiousness is not as controversial as with the men, it's not too bad, she could actually be interesting. Low Extraversion one is kind of neutral.

    In order: High Extraversion = High Agreeableness = High Conscientiousness = High Openness > High Emotional Stability

    In Socionics, an emotionally stable EIE.


    Also, before checking the key, but after I picked my preferences, I tried to guess which pair of faces is which Big 5, I got 3 of them right and mixed up Agreeableness and Extraversion, I suppose that's understandable because Extraversion bundles positive emotionality with it so it could seem pretty agreeable-ish to me with that.

    The women matching my Big 5 test results also very much look like me lol (very low Agreeableness and similarly very low Openness, low Extraversion, mid-high Conscientiousness, pretty high Emotional Stability).


    So whatever it is for Socionics correlations... @Xaiviay I hope I gave you enough of a datapoint.

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    High Conscientousness, High Agreeableness, High Extraversion, Low emotional stability, high openness


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    @Myst Do you have public pics?

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    Quote Originally Posted by crAck View Post
    @Myst Do you have public pics?
    Sorry, I don't. Why?

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    I liked the high openness and high emotional stability the most.


    I disliked low extraversion, low emotional stability, and low openness.

    The others were more mixed feelings...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Strange View Post
    Myst's pictures tend to melt the servers they appear on.
    Surely... and you need that special water-cooled camera to take pictures of Myst, normaly in use to take pictures of the sun.

    ...and be sure to wear the proper dress if you want to date Myst.


    SCNR, Adam. Sorry, Myst.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xaiviay View Post
    Hm, yeah that theory makes sense to me.
    Nice that you enjoyed my tiny lecture.

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    Mm-hm, but it's like, you're being 'disagreeable' because you're sticking to the version of the facts exactly as you see it, not sparing other people's feelings.
    I'd not call it "version of facts", but rather my interpretation of the information I gathered.

    Quote Originally Posted by Xaiviay View Post
    Or at least, that's how I perceive it (thinking of people like Jordan Peterson, for instance, who I like listening to a lot).
    I can't see Jordan Peterson as LII, because he use a lot of , more than

    Quote Originally Posted by Xaiviay View Post
    Yeah, that's probably accurate. I don't like having a rigid schedule imposed on me. I'm comfortable living when things are unpredictable and disorganized...stereotypical irrational type behavior, maybe?
    Of course, as a SEI type you don't like much.
    I might use , but i'm not aware of using it, and I don't have good control of

    Quote Originally Posted by Xaiviay View Post
    Ohh I see, you like to spend time thinking and exploring different topics more than acting out an organized lifestyle?
    I try to find a proper balance between both of them.

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    Ohh sorry you can't see her very often then :/ Hopefully you'll find some other ESEs to hang out with more often, if you haven't already. Thanks, also
    The problem is that ESE might be the type of my soulmaid, but definitly not the type of my mindmate.
    Thank you.

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    Um, I thought that the Big 5 trait of emotional stability basically just rated how strongly you tend to feel your emotions in stressful situations, and that seems like something that would correlate with high/low feeling in Socionics.
    Feeling is a rational function in the theory of C.G. Jung, but emotions itself are not rational.
    But emotions are the foundation of feeling judgement.

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    @Myst Hi, good post, thanks for all the info

    Well about prefering low openness, it seems like EIE is a type that naturally has high openness, but is looking for more closure, more certainty in their life goals, plans, and values (EIEs, go ahead and correct me if I'm missing the mark!). So, EIE is usually a high openness type that is working towards low openness (I think). So even if you liked low openness from men, and that's not exactly characteristic of EIEs, still you are both aiming for the same thing, so maybe your attraction instincts are right here after all...

    In all other ways your preferences seem to fit for a LSI woman so that's awesome
    Also, before checking the key, but after I picked my preferences, I tried to guess which pair of faces is which Big 5, I got 3 of them right and mixed up Agreeableness and Extraversion, I suppose that's understandable because Extraversion bundles positive emotionality with it so it could seem pretty agreeable-ish to me with that.
    Oh nice going, it's pretty interesting how the faces have only minimal physical differences but it seems like a lot of us can still see the different personalities in them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WinnieW View Post
    Nice that you enjoyed my tiny lecture.


    I'd not call it "version of facts", but rather my interpretation of the information I gathered.
    Ahh I see, gotcha Well I appreciate that idealogical consistency in LIIs, a lot of the time, it feels soothing to pay attention to.
    I can't see Jordan Peterson as LII, because he use a lot of , more than
    Really? I thought the demonstrative function can be pretty obvious too, right? He seems to be very Ti-dom and intuitive, imo.
    Of course, as a SEI type you don't like much.
    I might use , but i'm not aware of using it, and I don't have good control of
    Yeahhh you understand me xD
    Well at least you have there when you absolutely need it
    The problem is that ESE might be the type of my soulmaid, but definitly not the type of my mindmate.
    Thank you.
    Really? Well that's a little depressing :/ Maybe you can find one who's more well developed all around. or who has learned how much benefit they can get from and so they'll really listen to your ideas? I kind of understand, though, since I don't like some things about most ILEs.
    Feeling is a rational function in the theory of C.G. Jung, but emotions itself are not rational.
    But emotions are the foundation of feeling judgement.
    I see. Thanks for the input!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xaiviay View Post
    @Myst Hi, good post, thanks for all the info
    Np


    Well about prefering low openness, it seems like EIE is a type that naturally has high openness, but is looking for more closure, more certainty in their life goals, plans, and values (EIEs, go ahead and correct me if I'm missing the mark!). So, EIE is usually a high openness type that is working towards low openness (I think). So even if you liked low openness from men, and that's not exactly characteristic of EIEs, still you are both aiming for the same thing, so maybe your attraction instincts are right here after all...

    In all other ways your preferences seem to fit for a LSI woman so that's awesome
    Hm yeah the ExFx preference fits IxTx, no question about that. And yeah maybe it's that closure thing. With girls I'm ok with the high Openness thing more bc it matters there less...?

    The problem though is that these correlations between Big Five and Socionics are not 1:1, far from it actually...

    Like I said, Big 5 Extraversion includes specifics from Fe and Se etc - instead of having them in separate factors...

    Maybe you could say it's enough specifics from Fe that I find this the most attractive factor instead of Agreeableness.

    Also you could say it's because Agreeableness is not entirely Beta lol....

    But there is more, for example I know IEI-Fe's who pass as Extraverted a big enough amount of the time. I mean they are definitely IEIs (just with extraverted DCNH) otherwise, cognitively, with Ni lead, and Irrationality...

    So yeah, we can break it all down and explain everything but you can't simply say that it all matches LSI-EIE because the analysis will go beyond that. So for example with the IEI-Fe example above, their matching dual, SLE-Ti could also find the Extraversion more attractive than Introversion etc...


    Oh nice going, it's pretty interesting how the faces have only minimal physical differences but it seems like a lot of us can still see the different personalities in them.
    Ehh lol when I first looked at the guys I could barely see differences but after enough scrutinizing I noticed them yes. It's just hard to verbalize some of it.

    With the girls afterwards I instantly saw the differences, seeing big big differences verrry easily, not sure why.

    (I do recall I saw these pictures a while ago somewhere, and then I couldn't see it well for the girls either...)

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    (@Xaiviay I edited the post after you read it)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Myst View Post
    Hm yeah the ExFx preference fits IxTx, no question about that. And yeah maybe it's that closure thing. With girls I'm ok with the high Openness thing more bc it matters there less...?
    Yes that's probably true. You don't have to share the same life preferences with your friends because you won't be as close together all the time.
    Ehh lol when I first looked at the guys I could barely see differences but after enough scrutinizing I noticed them yes. It's just hard to verbalize some of it.

    With the girls afterwards I instantly saw the differences, seeing big big differences verrry easily, not sure why.

    (I do recall I saw these pictures a while ago somewhere, and then I couldn't see it well for the girls either...)
    Yeah same here, it's subtle but it's there, and mostly you only see it subconsciously at first.

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