A visual example of Si, Se, Ne and Ni

[Bertrand]

I think Se can be understood in "different" but neverthelesss mutually complimentary ways. Force is one way to think of it, but its the way to think of it in terms of its overall "lay of the land"--the distribution of objects in an area with a view to their leverage over one another. But its all the literal "external form" of a thing. Si is also the "external form" of a thing, in the sense that its sensory. Si just privileges the subjective impression of the external form. Further Si also attends to that with regard for oneself in the form of internal sensations we broadly capture as "comfort sensing." The ability to infer such states in others is based on the subjective impression of their external form (i.e.: expressions, posture, etc) and then a kind of "Si empathy" supplies in the mind of the viewer what that "must feel like" in the form of 1st person bodily experience... in other words, sensation is the "external" part, but extroverted and introverted would be like emphasis on form v state. You in essence always get both, but attention to one necessarily distorts (to the point of possibly ignoring almost entirely) to some extent the other

[Petter]

I think Se can be understood in "different" but neverthelesss mutually complimentary ways. Force is one way to think of it, but its the way to think of it in terms of its overall "lay of the land"--the distribution of objects in an area with a view to their leverage over one another. But its all the literal "external form" of a thing. Si is also the "external form" of a thing, in the sense that its sensory. Si just privileges the subjective impression of the external form. Further Si also attends to that with regard for oneself in the form of internal sensations we broadly capture as "comfort sensing." The ability to infer such states in others is based on the subjective impression of their external form (i.e.: expressions, posture, etc) and then a kind of "Si empathy" supplies in the mind of the viewer what that "must feel like" in the form of 1st person bodily experience... in other words, sensation is the "external" part, but extroverted and introverted would be like emphasis on form v state. You in essence always get both, but attention to one necessarily distorts (to the point of possibly ignoring almost entirely) to some extent the other

You are essentially saying this, right?

"Objects: Things that can be observed, studied, and discussed apart from the subject (observer)

Fields: Things that are perceived through the subject by means of feelings and cannot be studied apart from the subject"


... or this?


"The first division: objects - relationships

Jung started describing psychological types with the directions of human psyche extraversion – introversion.

Every phenomenon in the world can be considered either from the point of view of objects or from the point of view of relationships.

So, we have divided all the information flow into two big parts:

1. information about objects;
2. information about relationships.

Information aspects about objects are called extraverted.
Information aspects about relationships are called introverted.

Both of these mechanisms are necessary for every person’s psyche. A. Augustinavichuite writes: “The necessary condition for the functioning of any organism is the double bond with the world around… For the brain functioning as an information metabolism device it should be provided for with signals both from outside and the organism itself"[2].

Differences in the personality types are determined by the mechanism (one of these two) which is more often, customarily, surely, successfully and effectively used by the person. Let us remind of the fact that we can speak about a harmoniously developed personality when a person uses his strong and weak features almost like the proportion of golden section: approximately 60:40. That is a harmoniously developed extravert in about 60% of cases uses the mechanism of extraversion: is interested in the objects of the outer world, people, affairs etc. And about 40% of his attention is drawn to his inner world: to himself, his own attitude to the objects (people, affairs). An introvert accordingly vice versa .

Discussing the complicated matter of information division into aspects we will turn from time to time to one and the same example to see how it manifests itself in life. Let’s take an example including various information and see how it is divided into aspects.

A mother and a child. That is a many-sided system presuming different information aspects, different ways to see the situation. First there can be two points of view on this family. Some people first of all pay attention to each family member: what kind of person he (she) is, what he (she) would like, what he (she) can and so on. Other people are more interested in the kind of relationships between them. Here two points of view we have discussed are reflected: for the first observers (extraverts) the information aspects of these people as objects are more important, for the second ones (introverts) – information aspects of their relationships."