Duality, Conflict, and Pain

[domr]

you could say the same thing about model A (and analytic psychology in general) to begin with, which is precisely what singu does. it sounds like he's just worked out that premise a bit further than you

also i appreciate you not responding to me because you talk like an asshole and I find it super annoying

That's exactly what I did.

Which is why I stripped Socionics to the bare bones. Everything that I said was self-evidence, i.e unprovable, exists because it adds a lot of depth to the model, e.g. valued functions create Quadras.

if you are gonna make up stuff without any way to prove it then it has to be really strong. Making up stuff as a deus ex explicandum is the entire reason socionics got bloated to begin with.

[Bertrand]

yeah yeah you launder it through these other notions ("hypothesis" v "observation" is a distinction without a difference when its really all just essentially "too speculative" to found knowledge, because of how you go on to set the requirements constituting knowledge) but its essentially the same claim, you guys are two peas in a pod the only difference being domr thinks he can remake socionics to fix what singu says we're better off just tossing. i really think the only difference is Singu probably went through that exact phase already. anyway both of you have a weird relationship to time and how you think and its that relationship that creates all this weird from my point of view behavior. all the Fe on top is just like an amplifier calling attention to the underlying weirdness