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You want me to be gone because I started off saying something so general which isn’t even projected at anyone in particular and you’re literally joining the bandwagon doing what Betas do which is to feel attacked because their image association gets attacked. You’re not ESI because you go around moralizing others as if that’s Fi. That’s just bullshit Fe trying to regulate how others should behave according to their standards. You’re just another totalitarian shrill who wanted to believe you could be any different, I burst your bubble and now you want to “ban” me because I challenged your non-existent hierarchy. Everything I’ve said is unfolding as it is. Betas like you are having meltdowns because you know deep down what I say is true. Otherwise, if betas actually believe that I’m “trolling” then they wouldn’t get all angry over my general statement.
lolita is suffering from high neuroticism because her father is her supervisor and now she's projecting her insecurities on random people that she doesn't know because nobody takes her seriously irl. I would feel some kind of pity but my repulsion for her is stronger.
I know we haven't really interacted, and this is prob just me being a sensitive Delta NF, but here's a quick collection of things your friend has said:
"Kill yourself and find out."
"It was another trans one. Some real bold moves for a guy that has his nuts in a jar somewhere."
"I could be wrong. You could just be another gay little Harmonizer."
"Yeah, it is actually. Kill yourself."
"Wallow in your own shit in the darkness, you fucking slave."
"Not even close. Kill yourself, Mr. (alleged) Se PoLR."
"I can see you're very upset. I'm going to type you as an IEI on a whim. You just need a big ol' 7 foot tall black SLE to give you a good dicking, that'd help stop the hysterics."
"I suppose I can give you mercy, Duschia the little tr*nn-y wouldn't. Remember that."
(Edit: I'm not casting aspersions on you here. But his bigoted behavior truly disgusts me)
Who's having meltdown here?
I don't beleive you were trolling when you say the things you do about betas, I think you just have too much time on your hands, I realize your statements may have been general at first, but then you started going after people in the forum and chat when they started laughing at your statements from an intellectual pov, and I've been watching this, didn't wanna get involved honestly because I have better things to do, but you've gone to the point of appearing like a rabid animal going after anyone and everyone that contradicts her "general statement".
I think you pervert G's message but I don't expect to change your mind, if you presented your thoughts on types as being yours and yours alone then, yeah I'd be more okay with that, but you keep presenting it as "objective" when it just your subjective pov. And you keep presenting yourself as one of G' students while I do think you pervert his message.
Btw I'm not trying to ban anything, I do hope G chooses wisely when associating with people in his classes however because some of the things said here have gone too far, it's criminal to say some of the things you and your friend have said in some jurisdictions, that's not me making it up, it's a fact.
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it's worse:
an awful histrionic cow EIE woman homewrecked her family. this stuff goes deep. it's shakespearean.
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ETA: granted, she used to type her parents differently before she was typed by gulenko as SEE rather than SLE:
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what's funny to me is that uncle ave, being a creative subtype, probably doesn't give two shits about what a lunatic normalising girl has to say about him yet lolita pretends as if she has seen through him, with her pathetic 1D Ni.
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I've already had a few hour long skype conversations with him. I had 4 skype sessions with his team which lasted 2 hours so they could explain his school to me. he wants to visit me this year in berlin and I frequently write with him and his team. you just have no idea what you are talking about
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Sis is straight up DELUSIONAL.
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I have noticed a steadiness with @Aramas that I've come to associate with introverted static types. The reasonableness has a calming effect. Fe not on the agenda.
Fi as creative function in SEE (ESFp; Napoleon)
He is frequently conveying to others his attitude towards them. Uses his own attitude towards someone to manipulate them. Aims to give his evaluation to everything that surrounds him, judges what is 'good' and what is 'bad'. Sometimes he can change his sympathies and antipathies several times a day, very amorous and inconstant in this respect. Looks for a place where others would be interested in his views on any issue. Thus he may find his vocation as artistic director, since in this sphere his judgement is often accepted and valued. As a manager or leader his approach remains the same, however, acceptance of his judgement here will be lower. He himself refers to his evaluations as "work in progress", something mundane, commonplace to him: first he praises someone, then scolds them, then praises them again. Not being in a position to do this, it looks inadequate, so often this serves as incentive for him to achieve such a position, and thus quietly "sell" his products for which there is small demand in society. Usually none at all, because those who are critical of everyone often no one likes. He is frequently perceived as someone who has arrived with "his own charter in a foreign land". He immediately begins to look and evaluate everything: "this is good, but that is poor" "I like this, but not that". He is interested in conflict situations, and can even provoke them since then he will have a job: to assess. These people often win the sympathies of others by participating in their problems: they are aware and interested in them, they can adjust to another person to better get in touch. Therefore, they often make for good politicians. Their advantage is the ability to play on requests of the voters, to know what they want. Their relations are rarely reliable - "today I like you, tomorrow you're not in favor, and day after I like you again". Even their hate can easily one day turn into love. For them feelings is alike an interesting game. Their assessments can sometimes sound like moralizing, but there is no consistency to their judgements. Sometimes the situation requires that they adapt their valuation to "opinions of others." In such cases they may put it into more acceptable formulation, for example "it is said that ...". If you try to specify who is saying that, it turns out that he has merely used the phrase about public opinion to cunningly hide his own opinion.
Well he actually does since we used to talk and I’ve assisted Uncle Ave with helping sort out definitions of functions and even arranged conversations with an ILI as he was considering that typing AFTER he got LSI result from G. He’s not my dual and he doesn’t understand anything about Gamma Quadra, but still, I helped him. We had no personal falling out and now he’s being a moralistic angry grandpa back stabbing me for what? Just so he could publicly look good in front of the community as some savior calling for banning free speech. He discredits G and then say he’s gonna run and tattle tail to G because wahhhhh wahhhhhh Beta feelings got butthurt. Sheer hypocrisy. Yeah, Betas literally only care about social cred and reject Fi relations. What’s delusional is how there’s so many LSIs that believe they’re ESI and then fail hard on the Fi part so they’re upset with G because he wouldn’t validate their self-delusions.
Speaking of which, Mr. Clout chaser, you didn’t answer my question, did G confirm your self-typing or not? You avoided responding to me when you were so free with calling me crazy but normalizing (which is a contradiction).
No you avoided it because the answer is NO. You’re a hypocrite and a clout chasing LSI wanting to bank off of someone else’s work while building your own brand to leech off of him just like Timur and Olga.
It was your dual who actually ousted you. You’re so sure you’re above us all. You want to get me banned because I’m exposing your bullshit.
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It’s funny because I was actually fair and forgiving towards you but you’ve shown me that you’re incapable of being decent.
Word of advice, when you dualize with LSI, as there’s a about a billion of them on this forum let alone the world, watch your back. They’ll quickly grow tired and intolerant of your weak internal compass and discard you as the trash you are. So while you’re feeling elated by digging up things I’ve shared with the forum to help illustrate socionics ITR, and distorting it to somehow make me look bad, you end up looking deranged and unstable since we actually were on good terms before.
Of course, you’ll never learn. You’re one of those who’ll stay with their abuser and be enraptured by the “passion” it brings. I hope you find that happy place in your mind when reality serves to be too much and you can’t escape your fate being someone’s punching bag.
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Do you ever understand wtf you’re saying. Dox means
To search for and publish private or identifying information about (a particular individual) on the internet, typically with malicious intent.
I voluntarily shared that information to illustrate how an ITR plays out. Betas don’t want to dualize but just kill each other and everyone else. Hopeless and destructive.
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You’re a hypocrite. If you weren’t bothered then you wouldn’t have come out of the woodwork backstabbing me after we’ve been on good terms and I’ve helped you. I still have the message receipts.
I find it funny that you don’t support G but want to go tattletale to him as if you had some authority to persuade his decision. You only paid for a typing which you’re even ashamed of admitting what you’re typed as. I’ve paid for a typing, classes, and I’ve sent people to him to get typed. I actually find value in his work and don’t mind sharing some of the things I’ve learned.
But hey, I get it. LSIs have role playing Fi where they believe their delusional authoritarian claws can enforce something on others that fall outside of their reach.
Oh btw, if you want to get me and my dual banned, you’ll have to put your head on the chopping block, too. Do you feel like other Betas won’t throw you under the bus to save face?
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You clout chase G real hard and have a shittyass gallery. You think G don’t know that you’re not a lil incel Beta harmonizer pussy LSI? You won’t even get typed by him like the rest of us.
You want to get me and my dual banned, you and everyone else who wants that to happen better put money where their mouth is. You want a lynch mob, then your ass is going to get dragged, too.
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Guilt trip insult insult threat insult
Guilt trip insult insult insult threat
Actions have consequences. Scared of being banned, stop making personal attacks, just chill.
You are your own worst enemy atm.
You know SEEs have live and let live attitude, nobody witnessed you doing that.
but doing the same thing to @Alive and letting @Uncle Ave know you "have receipts" is "decent"? have you been "decent" by launching into personal attacks against people for their self-typings or berating the forum at large for not being typed by gulenko? what is "decent" anyway?
and you say you are 2L and not 2E in PY? the personal or emotional attack seems to be your forte/go to.Word of advice, when you dualize with LSI, as there’s a about a billion of them on this forum let alone the world, watch your back. They’ll quickly grow tired and intolerant of your weak internal compass and discard you as the trash you are.
i didn't really do any distorting. i simply direct quoted you. and yes, it was a move to discredit. you have been bratty (and that's putting it lightly) to most of the forum for a while now and it's exploded in this vendetta against beta and EIE in which you've declared just about the entire forum beta (in a seething hatred kind of way), so this seemed like it might pertain to why you are doing this.So while you’re feeling elated by digging up things I’ve shared with the forum to help illustrate socionics ITR, and distorting it to somehow make me look bad, you end up looking deranged and unstable since we actually were on good terms before.
well, it seems i'm being your punching bag. i am also not sure how this is going to work... am i the LSI's punching bag first and then they throw me out on the street for being the "trash i am"? sounds like this hypothetical "LSI" is the real trash. it's like, "you're trash because i disapprove of your character, but I'M a batterer!" lolOf course, you’ll never learn. You’re one of those who’ll stay with their abuser and be enraptured by the “passion” it brings. I hope you find that happy place in your mind when reality serves to be too much and you can’t escape your fate being someone’s punching bag.
My typing of forumites who haven't been typed:
Adam Strange: ILE
Inumbra: EIE-H
Consilience: Beta NF, probably IEI
Voider: EIE-H
Dead: EIE-C
Kingslayer: EIE-N
Loaded Piss Gun: EIE-C
Slytherin Power: EIE
Froody Blue Gem: EII or IEI
Sol: LSI-H or SLE-H
Nanashi: EIE
lkdhf: IEE
Socionics is a dangerous thing for a woman like me to have, but I have it.