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alonzo ile - annoying as FUCK
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Last edited by Moou; 05-05-2019 at 05:39 AM.
Great. Another inept simpleton incapable of accurately typing the ingrown hair on the underside of her (inevitably, if not already) cellulite ridden ass, let alone another human being. You not liking me ≠ conflictor, pudding pop. But at least you were close. An E for effort.
@tuathe EII of course. Didn’t have a chance to interact with you much but we still have time. Just adding you to my list
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
How do you know sol?? U a chicken sexer?
1.) Sigh...more waste of gray and white matter. Theoretically, there are millions and millions of LIEs > do you honestly fucking think they all look and act the exact same way? To imply such defies credulity and rationality. For one, many a Socionist acknowledges the existence of sub type; moreover, one of the reasons why complimentary systems like the Enneagram, for example, is useful is because it adds greater dynamism and complexity to the obvious, irrefutable diversity present among the sociotypes. I'm a LIE that is a sexual 8w7 (reactive, combative, "emotional" > angry), which tends to manifest quite differently to a self-pres 3w4 or social 1w2; Of course there are general trends (i.e, base cognition) for where a particular type should customarily fall but sub types most certainly exist. Why? In part, because variables like one's upbringing/"nurturing" matters. A LIE who grows up in a violent, turbulent environment might present differently than one who had a supportive household with every advantage in life. There are a plethora of variables that tint and stylize the ways in which one's type manifests. Only those incapable of grasping context and nuance fail to understand this. All that matters is that I lead with Te and creative Ni, which is evident to anyone who's seen a few of my posts and actually knows how to type--your reputation concerning the latter is dubious, at best.
2.) But most importantly, did I ask for your 2.65 ruble opinion? NOPE. Kick rocks.
Last edited by Alonzo; 05-08-2019 at 12:03 AM.
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
lol wut?
...normally, I wouldn't touch that question with a 10 ft pole...and damn sure not publicly. But then again, to showcase one's type is to expose one's weaknesses...for anybody that knows how to google/read. And the Sx-So part of me is willing to martyr for the sake of imparting understanding to the tribe. So here goes:
In this particular context, what pisses me off is the notion of being denigrated or discounted (I like this better than "abandoned") due to constantly being misunderstood, even in forums that are supposed to be designed to impart understanding about the "self" and all the different "selves" to those attempting to "know" people. I get demonized (read: called "annoying as FUCK") for actually caring. Some runaway abortion who doesn't know my inner workings wants to call me "annoying" because they can't get past my delivery to see what's motivating it from underneath > genuinely wanting to help someone uncover their truth.
The thing is, I get that I can be too intense, come on strongly, be a bit overbearing, impatient and brusque in my delivery at times but 9 times out of 10, my intentions are never to be harsh for the sake of being harsh. Any semblance of frustration or passion or anger or whatever is most likely rooted in the fact that I'm talking/discussing/engaging an issue I actually give a fuck about, i.e., systems like Socionics have been invaluable to me (someone who doesn't innately "get" people > shitty Fi) and, idealistically, I want them to work for everyone, from a place of helping them like I have been helped, which is where the passion comes from.
And I do get that because I'm more ostensibly concerned with the system, I can come off as rough and impersonal towards actual beings within the system, which reeks of irony considering it's a system directly tied to people--believe it or not, that is something I do take into consideration and try to mitigate. But, at the end of the day, I am cognitively inclined towards being [Te] impersonal in my delivery! lol And people on a fucking Socionics website should get that > moreover, that proves that I am typed correctly. And yet you have irritating MFers like Sol trying to call that into question. I'm still relatively young, and have a long way to go as far as growth and development are concerned. But to come to a forum that is designed to foster understanding about how our personalities interact, for better or for worse, and have some still don't see how we are all moving parts of an active system, and so at least a bit of objectivity should be applied before making harsh judgments about another person...is frustrating. And obviously, I am a part of the problem as well, but I do a fair amount of "shutting my mouth" because I'll say to myself, "there goes that Se/Fi/Fe/Ti/etc...-lead being a dick again, poor thing can't help it." lol The thing is, we all have to do that to varying extents and degrees in order to derive true benefit from social "experiments" like this. I try to give that "courtesy" to others, to the best of my ability, and so I damn sure want some of it back. That's all.
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
Same core issue I mentioned concerning being misunderstood, and therefore discounted, just on a wider scale.
It's there, if one actually knows what to look for. lol The blue is more negativist and the red, positivist. And like positivists, even when citing a negative, I turn it into a positive, as illustrated by "but."
Because I'm a human, I do also utilize "negativist" constructions, but what (theoretically) matters is the ratio; 4D Te is capable of understanding this nuance.
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
also, you don't have to bold discern highlight etc for me. i'm not dumb... been doing this for a long time
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
1.) Those things have nothing to do with positivist and negativist:
2.) Yes, it's important to distinguish what you've seen from what I've actually done; those are two different things.Positivism-Negativism is often mistaken for optimism-pessimism, where Positivism has become synonymous with optimism, and Negativism - with pessimism. By extension, those who fall into Eneagram's positive outlook triad (these are types 2,7,9) are sometimes mistaken for Positivist types due to these triad's innate preference for dealing with problems by adopting a "positive attitude", for as much as possible, and reframing disappointments in some more uplifting way; while the often mistrustful attitude and propensity to mentally dwell on problems and threats of enneagram type 6 can be mistaken for Negativism. It is important to note that there is no direct relation between Positivist-Negativist Reinin dichotomy and optimism-pessimism. The name of this dichotomy should not be interpreted literally. Positivists do not have an inherently positive outlook on life, and Negativists - a negative one. The Positivist-Negativist dichotomy describes certain kinds aspects of cognitive perception and mental operations rather than person's outlook, attitudes, and prevalent emotional state. Optimism-pessimism is a quality that arises from personal experiences; socionics factors do not influence and condition this phenomenon in itself.
3.) Though I think you are EII (I've seen your videos and you are Fe-ignoring as hell), I hardly ever see Ne in anything you say or do, just non stop low D (very rigid and lacking in nuance) Si+ Te as if you skip over Ne entirely--I've rationalized that away as a potential side effect of being dualized. What say you about that?
Upon second notice, this is actually rather astute--I can't hate. lol As far as superficial observations go, that is. I'd say this typing is probably precisely my Super-Ego mask or what I affectionately call, the "Patrick Bateman." I'm fairly chummy with a ESE-Si 3w2 sp/so male and we can look remarkably similar, so much so that I thought he might be a LIE, at first > but the thing is, we always watch each other from afar with mild suspicion because we peep the other's "game." I'm not a Fe-empath, don't experience affective empathy via contagion, but will floor the gas pedal with role Fe in some necessary (schmoozing, ass kissing) situations that he's admitted to me in private can come off fake as fuck to him, in that from his vantage point, it is clearly performative; and he always tries to present a "tougher," more logically impenetrable Businessman persona but I can always see those fe-fes on full display in his irrepressibly moody, hyper-mobile face and watery ass eyes--my grill can't do 1/4 of what his does. Still think you're a cephalic disordered dumpster baby, but gotta give props where they are due.
Last edited by Beautiful sky; 05-08-2019 at 08:43 AM.
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
FFS, how many times must I say that I am no Fe empath or any kind of "inborn" Fe valuer for that matter? As much as that would be awesome (EIEs are my favorite type), it would be physiologically/neurologically impossible because I do not feel the emotions of others by way of possessing a certain brand of mirror neurons that allow me to experience emotional contagion > affective empathy. I access empathy channels through Fi perspective taking, where I try to place myself into the shoes of another person and therefore close psychological distances > cognitive empathy. But because my Fi is 1D, I will be relatively empathy impaired (read: prone to giving no fucks) unless I have previous experiences similar to whatever situation is demanding my empathy. In the post you quoted, you are not witnessing Fe, but Se, a function I use often because it has energy and impact. I believe that being an Enneagram 8 accentuates Se because I am obsessed with volitional will/power dynamics and manipulating them. My saying "DIE/CUNt" is not rooted in any emotional sentiment; I say that just as easily as I'd say "Pardon?" or "thank you."
Aren't you supposed to be a LSE? Te is a dynamic function, and 4D Te knows how to incorporate new information and adapt accordingly, every formulating a new, more effective rationale. You rigidly trying to force me (and others) into narrowly and somewhat poorly defined categories based off of limited data (via your evidently lacking irrational/perceiving functions > ancient, worn and weary, perhaps?) without taking into consideration the peculiarities and nuances of my subjective being and how that should inform Te conclusions do not speak well of your (alleged) lead function.
TeNis are just more "relaxed" usually, that's why people are having a difficult time to see you like one. Fe and Se make more sense, by functions alone... but sure, you can be whatever type you pick.
But that, in and of itself, is a ridiculous way to type someone, which is why these opinions amount to nothing as far as I'm concerned. What matters is whether or not I utilize the functions that correspond with what my typing is supposed to be. How "chill" I am or not can be contingent upon other non related factors > again, for the seats in the back, I am a sexual 8, which has its own flavor. Why is that so hard to understand? Without a doubt, I capably explain myself with a clear rationale.
It's not ridiculous when you grasp what the functions are, which means to know even how they behave in some average amount... it's biased, yes, but if I see 70 LIEs who are in a given way, and then one LIE who exhibits a behaviour not in line with the others.. my doubts are well justified. you see what I mean? By type description you fit the image on a LIE though, they're described as aggressive and can't contain themselves... it makes sense if Fe is your role, you won't have a too well developed hold on it, and the mobilizing function often acts as "hidden agenda", so Se could be the secret aim behind your actions, again not well developed... this could explain it all... well, it makes more sense now. Thanks for letting me analyze~
Alonzo is quite potential EIE. I say this due to complex output. LIE's and ESI's are like ESI: Hi. LIE: Hi. ESI: Food? LIE: Thanks. ESI: Would you like more salt on that cracker? LIE: My salt intake for the day is already fulfilled. ESI: Reproduction? LIE: Yes please our situation considering stock markets look fine.
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html