I do love Te and that’s probably what you feel-me following you around reading clearly defined information. Unambiguous, well categorized.
And yes @ooo feels IEE to me at times
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
Depends on how you define trolling. I don't equate it with teasing/joking. There is often something more diabolical going on with trolling. Do you troll people here? If so can you give an example? I tease or poke more than troll. Troll is mostly used as an ad hominem these days anyway. Most people called trolls are not.
I was using function values/position definitions when I said it so nothing I said is in stone. I think trolling is more likely done with unvalued functions than valued ones. Sure, we can mix it up though and use any IE as a tool. Base and creative included.
If you don't troll people then it wouldn't apply.
“My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.” —C.G. Jung
I think I trolled ooo in this thread https://www.the16types.info/vbulleti...ing-distracted
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
“My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.” —C.G. Jung
to me trolling is like this
but indeed, we all perceive trolling differently...In Internet slang, a troll is a person who starts quarrels or upsets people on the Internet to distract and sow discord by posting inflammatory and digressive,[1] extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a newsgroup, forum, chat room, or blog) with the intent of provoking readers into displaying emotional responses[2] and normalizing tangential discussion,[3] whether for the troll's amusement or a specific gain.
thx Ayl ^^
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
Lol funny cause it's kinda true.
I'm not saying this in a "woe is me" way (cause I don't do pity) but, especially when in close proximity to strong Fe users, I'm a bit envious at times because I feel like I'm missing out on a significant part of the human experience (in that most people use Fe); one of the reasons why I can get particularly vexed by being called a Fe lead is because I know for a fact that I don't experience emotional contagion. I think of my EIE/ESE friends who have backed up what Oprah has said about experiencing a "joy headache," for example, because of being overwhelmed by such heightened positive feelings in the immediate environment. I'm immune to all that shit.
When I use role Fe, I think I burn out so quickly because I'm not getting the revitalizing emotional contagion that would sustain my efforts; there's no visceral payoff. And even when I experience something "joyful" or "sad," to watch me from a far, one would barely know I was feeling anything. It just registers as a tiny "blip" and then the next thought is, "ok, what's next on the agenda?" It really does seem like I was built primarily to get shit done. lol Had I not the torturous pleasure of being dualized, I'd never have experienced euphoria on my own. And even then, I know that my version of that will never compare to a EIE's--and I also know that a potential positive is that I'm also immune to terrible lows. I'm just kinda flat/"meh." And so, to a point, I couldn't even blame people if they saw me as a joy sucking "buzzkill" at times. I most certainly can be. But at least I'm not as inclined to give a fuck about that, on my own, in and of myself. Mother nature comes through, again, I suppose. lol
Damn, it looks like I missed a chance to get typed for free.
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lol As "boring" as this melodramatic bullshit?:
Doesn't look that "base T" to me. Besides your miserable, nigh incomprehensible English, what I can't stand most about you is your blatant hypocrisy and intellectual dishonesty:
Hold the phone...since when is it acceptable and reasonable for an (alleged) LSE to use "Fe," joking or otherwise? According to Solcionics, LSEs are a peak boring, steel rod rammed up the ass, inescapable fart, "holley (sp?)" Te type. The room is spinning...I'm so confused...the cognitive dissonance is eating me up from the inside. lol Why the double standards, tovarish?
I do showcase my emotion here > ANGER, being the only one I can use with any facility and nuance. Why? Because as an ennegram 8, right or wrong, good or bad, I freely submit to my anger and wear it proudly--that's really the only time I get to feel like I'm truly alive. You, as an obviously bottom pit of OCD hell dwelling enneagram 1, try to sublimate and control your anger because you don't think it's "good." FUCKING DUH, we'll have different relationships to showing emotions. Also, Gamma Quadra is more prone to "emotional" hostility and volatility than Delta Quadra is. Only those ignorant or brain dead can't wrap their heads around these rudimentary, widely known and adhered to concepts.
You won't ever win a trolling battle with me, comrad--I guarantee you that.
I have a hypothesis that part of @Sol's brain was damaged and genius level soviet scientists (who were from outer space) replaced that part of his brain with microchip and AI. It has fairly good reboot system in place as it tends to crash quite frequently due to primitive ambiguity handling.
MOTTO: NEVER TRUST IN REALITY
Winning is for losers
Sincerely yours,
idiosyncratic type
Life is a joke but do you have a life?
Joinif you dare https://matrix.to/#/#The16Types:matrix.org
In relations with Hugo Hamlet constantly feels humiliated. And always suffer from cruel and vulgar jokes and jokes Hugo.
Last edited by Beautiful sky; 05-13-2019 at 02:34 AM.
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
MOTTO: NEVER TRUST IN REALITY
Winning is for losers
Sincerely yours,
idiosyncratic type
Life is a joke but do you have a life?
Joinif you dare https://matrix.to/#/#The16Types:matrix.org
Again you lack self criticism. You should have questioned yourself over the fact that if your proposed event (site contribution) contributes solely to all events (thinking for yourself)... but I already made a contribution in this post alone by encouraging self critique so the case is kind of closed already before we need further investigation.
Then we can delve bit deeper to the question if contributions in any case contributes to thinking of yourself. Is translation a self thinking action that has enough divergence? We can always question this and this thought already can be a source for possible studies regarding it but we have to say that it resides beyond direct socionics contribution.
And yes, I have even completed studies that required thinking for yourself instead going by copy paste methods and I have done work in there so this point of yours hardly reaches the target.
MOTTO: NEVER TRUST IN REALITY
Winning is for losers
Sincerely yours,
idiosyncratic type
Life is a joke but do you have a life?
Joinif you dare https://matrix.to/#/#The16Types:matrix.org
Hmm, interesting.
What I will say is that ITR doesn't seem to make logical sense to me. Like, my ITR seems to not apply to my life.
Types I don't get along with : EII - seen with my interactions with Maritsa, ESI, IEE to an extent. Fi leads are annoying in my opinion.
Types I do get along with: SLI (best friend 1), SEE, ESE, EIE, IEI, SEI (best friend 2)
Seems pretty inconsistent. But then idk if that lines up with another type.
The whole thing of like seeking a dual I don't get either. Because I've had those EIEs and ESEs tell me they get their Ti from me which doesn't add up. Seems like a lot of things contradict each other and it's blatantly obvious to me that things contradict and I still don't get how people take this shit as gospel lol.
Hope this makes a lick of sense to you ahah.
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
EIE integrates all the most beautiful and poetic tales, myths, legends, fantasies and images that he gathers on his information field, fluttering along it as gracefully and with ease as a butterfly moves among the most exquisite flowers.
From this comes EIE's interest in collecting art treasures, that many members of this TIM collect for those to whom this will be valuable in the future, who will carefully manage and preserve them, and pass them on to future generations.
From this come the high demands of the EIE towards any creation and creative work – high demands to its quality and depth, to the informational and substantiative compactness of content for the perfect harmony and perfection of the form – to all that is expressed and provided for by sophisticated "high style" and "high-tech" extroverted aspects of the "evolutionary" ring of benefit (LSE-ILE-EIE-SEE).
His creative task and challenge the EIE sees in taking the global, constructive ideas, that relate to the fundamental constructs of the world, worldviews, perceptions and understandings, which he receives over the aspect of intuition of potential (+Ne) from his "benefactor" ILE, Don Quixote, and supplementing them with the brightest imagery and fantasies that are deep in meaning and succinct in content. And putting them into a harmonically sophisticated and brightest in strength of expression and impressions form (which the EIE later sends to the material-technical processing and preservation ("conservation") of his dual LSI, and his social successor SEE, who in turn will forward it to the technological improvement of his "beneficiary" LSE, who in turn will forward it back to the ILE for further intuitive complication and expansion of possibilistic capacity at the new turn of "the spiral" of evolution).
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
This program is the maximum of TIM EIE. It comes down to bringing the happiness to mankind by the creation of a better future from the present. And to bringing happiness to oneself by knowing that one was involved in this noble mission.
Without color, light, richness and romantic creativity of the EIE, the life of LSI would be terrible, mundane, and gloomy, alike a raw, cold, dark cellar. It wouldn't even be life, as it would't supply him with either energy and strengths, nor the desire to live and enjoy his existence (-Fe).
Last edited by Beautiful sky; 05-14-2019 at 02:17 AM.
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
From the way the girl/woman holds and behaves herself in the community – quietly, modestly, but with dignity and with clear understanding of her place in the system, while not losing it, not giving way to anyone, and defending her rights by lawful, normal, legitimate ways; by the way she knows how to be friendly with the people around her and respectful of elders; by the way she is able to allocate and spend the time doing useful and needed tasks (for successful existence in communal conditions); by the way she selects her inner circle from the most trustworthy and well brought up peers; by the way she organizes her leisure time, visiting theaters, museums, libraries – from all of this it becomes clear whether she would make an appropriate match for such "a person of the system" ("a man in a case") as is Maxim. Here, as a rule, either everything fits "one to one" (as in a good cliché) or doesn't match at all.
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
ILI/INTp/INTJ was the very first typing I ever received and the one I gravitated to most, until I came across the Socionics LIE/ENTj--I've never fully gelled with MBTI ENTJ. I had always identified as an introvert (but in a social sense) but no one else around me ever seemed to agree. lol But a while back, I stumbled upon "ambiversion" and read several places that those who are extroverts and intuitive can oftentimes appear to be more introverted than what they actually are, and seeing as how Te, in particular, is not inherently extroverted in the social "let's be friends" sense, I figured it made sense as to why I tended to prefer my own company to that of others unless work was involved and frequently liked to disconnect from the world and live in my head for a bit.
It's just that regarding Fe and Se, I'm not a complete incompetent; I concede that my usage of Fe is heavy handed and not particularly sophisticated, but at least my face actually moves and I try at it. lol I see the utility in it though I'd rather not deal on those terms, at all. And with Se, I've never had too big a problem with taking action and asserting my will, especially when "go time"; moreover, I enjoy getting in people's faces and throwing my weight around. lol If anything, I err on the side of being restless and impulsive more so than inert and lethargic. If not a non subtype LIE, then the only other options I'd see for myself are LIE-Ni and ILI-Te.
Btw, are you IEI? Something about you (read: vibez) strikes me as a IEI but you don't have shitty Te, as in, you don't seem to fear it...which is refreshing. lol