(My name is Yon Yonson,
I live in Wisconsin.
I work in a lumber yard there.
The people I meet as
I walk down the street,
They say "Hello!"
I say "Hello!"
They say "What's your name?"
I say: (My name is Yon Yonson...
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@one If you don't mind being typed my guess for you is ESI
Typing works like Jewish dream interpretation: it highly depends on the intention of the one typing you. I discovered the intention of the man who typed me ILI-N and I reject it.
(My name is Yon Yonson,
I live in Wisconsin.
I work in a lumber yard there.
The people I meet as
I walk down the street,
They say "Hello!"
I say "Hello!"
They say "What's your name?"
I say: (My name is Yon Yonson...
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@Alive - IEI
@Alive , seriously and away from any " typing battle " or anything like that
How does your Ne manifest usually ?
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Interest in almost anything without ever thinking about material benefits. Jumping from topic to topic. The ability to give up beliefs or pursuits on a whim. Grasping the general idea of how something works quickly (focusing on the broad, most important points instead of going through the details in-depth, which is Ni).
Okay but what about @Alive being EII instead of LII ?
LII is the last thing I think of as his type
I'm not an ethical person, but I would be open about recording a discussion with someone like @Aster if she wants to so you people have some footage on an LII
too crass for Fi, when Fi egos get annoyed they don't talk like he does with Coeruleum.
what he describes about himself here is closer to irrationality than Ne ego. and his aversion to popularity or being well-known - introversion, not logic. he's not LII for sure - his thinking is not rational. and his views of people and their abilities is not nuanced, which is less likely for Ne egos. however, his mind seems more complex and far-reaching, his style is not simplistic, so on that basis sensory is also less likely. he has a flair for humour and irony - closer to Fe emotional agitation and the mental complexity of intuitives. another point for intuition is his reasonably good abilities in VI from my perspective, even though he uses subtypes and probably does not see types on the same basis as I do. I'm sometimes impressed by how he hits a mark close to what I see too. sensors, especially Se types, have worse perceptions of the characters of people.Jumping from topic to topic. The ability to give up beliefs or pursuits on a whim.
from the video introversion and intuition, more irrational was also apparent. but he's ethical and irrational, not logical. compare his way of talking with mine, yours and Clarke's.
what's your opinion on Snowgirl's and my type, @Alive? be interesting to hear your view
Do you have any reasons other than not caring about other people ?
I thought of you being EII with 1L + 3/4 E in psyche yoga (this is very very possible with you honestly , it would make you look like a logical type, but it doesn't mean you're a logical type )
I know a lot of LIIs , and they are all clearly strong in logic and provide very convincing evidence in the conversation , no offense to you but your logic and way of analyzing things in general is so much weaker than them that I exclude LII completely
I don't have an answer that is all that interesting nifl. I think both you and Snowgirl are IEI, and sol is likely one too. I'm convinced that there aren't all that many types in the west that would actively engage in something like socionics
Honestly, I don't have a strong opinion about your type because you don't participate in anything impersonal in this forum to know how your life works, but what I noticed is a clear dependence on Ti compared to Te (you have your own theories that you follow)
Definitely not LSI , LSI appear Te-ish when dealing with theories due to low unvalued Ne
SLI , LII , ILI what I'll think of
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Do you have reasons?Snowgirl are IEI
away from Ni+ because I'm 10000% not a future oriented person ( I even have anxiety and uncertainty about the future and the unknown in general )
@Snowgirl
I generally follow *most* of the basic theory without much elaboration (Ti scepticism - although Ne valuers more like new and interesting ideas in general), think about and try to apply what others have written about it, and my own observations and experiences (Te)what I noticed is a clear dependence on Ti compared to Te (you have your own theories that you follow)
more Ti-enthusiastic posters here are Rusal, for example. enjoys and utilizes (in my opinion excessive and nonsensical) elaborations on the theory. IEI may be right for her.
I'd like to be an intuitive, honestly, but I don't have the expansive or creative mind that usually characterises those people. I realised this when I had to decide between ILI and SLI, through self-reflection about dichotomies and values, comparison with others and most importantly intertype relations.
I don't really have any logical explanation why I type you this way, it's intuition that points in that direction. fear of the future is associated with Ni
Such an individual perceives information from without as feelings about the future, past, and present. For example, a sense of hurriedness, calmness, or heatedness, a sense of timeliness or prematureness, a sense of proper or improper life rhythm, a sense of impending danger or safety, anticipation, fear of being late, a sense of seeing the future, anxiety about what lies ahead, and so forth.
https://www.wikisocion.net/en/index....rted_intuition
my reactions are quite strong true, although I need to mention that the constant lies about what I'm claiming are quite difficult for me to ignore as a logical type, as I define myself through the things I research. when someone casually claims things that I never said, that gets annoying. I could ignore it if it happens one or two times, but it happened dozens of times. it was only a matter of time until it was bound to escalate.
Except for feeling like I'm going to be late for something , and worrying that something will go wrong, I don't relate to the restSuch an individual perceives information from without as feelings about the future, past, and present. For example, a sense of hurriedness, calmness, or heatedness, a sense of timeliness or prematureness, a sense of proper or improper life rhythm, a sense of impending danger or safety, anticipation, fear of being late, a sense of seeing the future, anxiety about what lies ahead, and so forth.
I rarely think about the flow of time or such things , most of my time is spent in perceiving what I see/hear/smell , and in observing changes in my environment + reacting directly to them when needed.
What I'm saying wasn't clear to me at first, I realized this after a very long time of observing myself
Thank you for explaining anyway
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btw, I'm between two types now (after a discussion with a LII-Ti friend of mine , we narrowed my type down to two), so any further discussions wouldn't really make a difference, but I'm just asking out of curiosity
@PrelapsarianAdam is more like an ethical type
(My name is Yon Yonson,
I live in Wisconsin.
I work in a lumber yard there.
The people I meet as
I walk down the street,
They say "Hello!"
I say "Hello!"
They say "What's your name?"
I say: (My name is Yon Yonson...
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Oh certainly, he may be an ILI, which isn't a Ti type. @Alive
never said that, but the more it is done, the more likely for the person to be ethical. he showed trouble with understanding the basic theory, too. him being ILE is doubtful on that basis, doubtful enough to seriously consider his type again
you misrepresent what i said in the very previous message and have trouble with logical nuance, it seems. ethical is also possible for you.
Alive is most likely IEI, which is close to your suggestion. he thinks too simplistically and illogically for ILI - his claim about sensors being focused on material reality all the time is a simplification that's unlikely for any logical type to make, especially a Te type which is focused on practice more than theory. also he's less boring than the typical logical type IME
I haven't read a lot from @PrelapsarianAdam but he seems to have a very sophisticated understanding of theory. Too theoretical for me tbh. Anyways, I have no problem with his self-typing.
@Alive does seem to think in a really simplistic way directly equating too many things with IEs. But that isn't purely type related.
I've found Logical types interesting, it all depends on personality (the personality outside the "type box"), style, intelligence, the content of their thoughts, their achievements, etc.
I'm leaving this comment as last: Ahahah, me being Ethical. Thanks for the compliment though!! I've certainly worked enough on my feelings and my understanding of emotions in general. Mind saying which Ethical I'd be? You (and anyone else) can also post about that in my typing thread here: https://www.the16types.info/vbulleti...e-(seeking-it)
Anyhow, I was not misinterpreting your post as written, if you use a statistical approach, it's best to mention that for your posting like this to keep your input unambiguous. Because without mentioning that, it will just come off exactly like I read it, simplistic...which is what I was responding to.
i said he was closer to ethical because of his behaviour, to which you responded by implying that i said that showing emotion at all or joking around a lot makes someone ethical (joking around a lot is indeed more common for ethical types, especially outside intimate or comfortable situations). any typing is ''stastistical'' or based on perception of likelihood, since there's no objective proof of types as of nowAnyhow, I was not misinterpreting your post as written
i'm not sure which ethicist you are, but it is likely that you are one since you keep misunderstanding relatively simple logic