Well, what I was trying to illustrate is: a one trick pony will always revert to their one and only trick and let any constructive criticism fly over their heads. Ponies can’t fly so unfortunately they can’t catch the constructive criticism hovering above them that’s totally free to catch.
BTW, not trying to be shady just as you are not trying to be a clown despite the clownery.
・゚*✧ 𝓘 𝓌𝒾𝓁𝓁 𝓃𝑜𝓉 𝒶𝒸𝒸𝑒𝓅𝓉 𝒶 𝓁𝒾𝒻𝑒 𝓘 𝒹𝑜 𝓃𝑜𝓉 𝒹𝑒𝓈𝑒𝓇𝓋𝑒 ✧*:・゚
Alright, I got it. But I never asked for your "constructive criticism". I don't value your ways. I'm not a Beta. Beta shit won't work on me. I don't value Fe and i'm Ti polr. It's not like you can change me, if you dislike what I say, just ignore me. Or cry, but do it silently.
There you go! Speaking like an adult finally. I might have a tough love approach sometimes. But the post was more about making you and “ooo” realize that you are really not quite all that different as you think. Don’t worry, I’m normally a benevolent being— no intention of harm and no tears are being shed. I just like to see the best versions of people.
・゚*✧ 𝓘 𝓌𝒾𝓁𝓁 𝓃𝑜𝓉 𝒶𝒸𝒸𝑒𝓅𝓉 𝒶 𝓁𝒾𝒻𝑒 𝓘 𝒹𝑜 𝓃𝑜𝓉 𝒹𝑒𝓈𝑒𝓇𝓋𝑒 ✧*:・゚
Such a Fe thing, trying to change people because the "emotions" they're displaying are tormenting the group mood. Best version of people are what you think are the best versions, versions that won't break with your emotional atmosphere. But maybe I just don't care about it.
I've got nothing against you, I just don't care about what you want. Substance and shit. It's like you're demanding me to value the same stuff you do and that will never happen. We're opposing quadras for a reason, if you can't realize that then throw all you know about socionics through a window.
I started bullshitting around on this thread because people are randomly tagging me on shit and battle-typing me, people I don't even know about, and some IEI who writes gibberish. If people come at me with bullshit, i'll respond with more bullshit. This thread is a meme.
Functions are not your enemies! Most people’s worst enemies are themselves.
That is a fair point. I do see me doing that quite a bit in the context of my life but hey, I self type as FeNi for a reason... I’m not in any way saying you have to stop being vulgar or some such bullshit (I can be quite vulgar myself, just I dose it more appropriately in whatever group setting I’m in rather than letting it fully run wild at all times like you seem to [my signature quote can speak for itself...]), I just think it would be better if you slowed down and put some more thought into things. That could be my Ni valuing speaking for itself. Perhaps that does tie in with the “group atmosphere” as I feel like the forum should be a perfect balance of goofing off and proper reflection and maybe you’re not fitting the standards of that atmosphere that should -to me- be cultivated.trying to change people because the "emotions" they're displaying are tormenting the group mood. Best version of people are what you think are the best versions, versions that won't break with your emotional atmosphere. But maybe I just don't care about it.
I feel like the best version of you I have in mind is one that does not have an obvious guard up with trolling and rage sprinkled in. And I feel like I am getting you to lower the guard a bit so good job.
That’s true. Just like I will never value Si even if it’s one of the most important components of life in several ways. *eye roll* Won’t even get into your other valued functions because we’d be here all day.I've got nothing against you, I just don't care about what you want. Substance and shit. It's like you're demanding me to value the same stuff you do and that will never happen. We're opposing quadras for a reason, if you can't realize that then throw all you know about socionics through a window.
I see where you’re coming from. It’s not like I’m sitting here thinking I’m a perfectly flawless (I almost wrote “unflawed”... ) God who is unable to fight B.S. with B.S. or that I’m not able to appreciate memes and comedy. I’m actually thoroughly amused at all of this right now.I started bullshitting around on this thread because people are randomly tagging me on shit and battle-typing me, people I don't even know about, and some IEI who writes gibberish. If people come at me with bullshit, i'll respond with more bullshit. This thread is a meme.
・゚*✧ 𝓘 𝓌𝒾𝓁𝓁 𝓃𝑜𝓉 𝒶𝒸𝒸𝑒𝓅𝓉 𝒶 𝓁𝒾𝒻𝑒 𝓘 𝒹𝑜 𝓃𝑜𝓉 𝒹𝑒𝓈𝑒𝓇𝓋𝑒 ✧*:・゚
I'll admit the part about the "IEI who speaks gibberish" (don't know who you are referring to) made me laugh and I hear you on the certain Fe dom types who push their agenda on you or think everyone is supposed to value Fe the way they do. There was actually a convo on that topic in the shoutbox yesterday. I don't think it's the case for most Fe doms though, at least not the more well-adjusted ones, and I don't think that's really what Flames was doing.
Ok, I like you. You make a good point. I just react that way if people attack me, like, REEEEE, i'm not perfect myself and i don't value Se. I just fend off attackers with Se role. People here don't seem to value anything and just battle-type and start saying bullshit without listening.
@thegreenfaerie @Aaron Something
Look at us NFs, spreading world peace one vague typological post at a time.
・゚*✧ 𝓘 𝓌𝒾𝓁𝓁 𝓃𝑜𝓉 𝒶𝒸𝒸𝑒𝓅𝓉 𝒶 𝓁𝒾𝒻𝑒 𝓘 𝒹𝑜 𝓃𝑜𝓉 𝒹𝑒𝓈𝑒𝓇𝓋𝑒 ✧*:・゚
@ooo
You’re also an *NF* so we’ll have our talk and hug next unless you want to hit me with a frying pan after my read on you.
・゚*✧ 𝓘 𝓌𝒾𝓁𝓁 𝓃𝑜𝓉 𝒶𝒸𝒸𝑒𝓅𝓉 𝒶 𝓁𝒾𝒻𝑒 𝓘 𝒹𝑜 𝓃𝑜𝓉 𝒹𝑒𝓈𝑒𝓇𝓋𝑒 ✧*:・゚
Shocked & offended that Sol has not stalked me and given me a type.... I feel like a teenager in foster care.
・゚*✧ 𝓘 𝓌𝒾𝓁𝓁 𝓃𝑜𝓉 𝒶𝒸𝒸𝑒𝓅𝓉 𝒶 𝓁𝒾𝒻𝑒 𝓘 𝒹𝑜 𝓃𝑜𝓉 𝒹𝑒𝓈𝑒𝓇𝓋𝑒 ✧*:・゚
I think @Sol is basically right in my case actually in that asians' eyes are too small and dark to look at and see much variation in with different emotions, plus different kinds of expressions based on culture. It's also considered taboo to look into people's eyes, so I don't really get the correct practice, if I get any at all. I can't really imagine not using a person's entire body language or their entire facial expression at least to discern what they're feeling. I also feel that individual people will physically express emotions a little bit differently, so I prefer to consider other contextual cues.
Everybody looks like my avatar, basically. What is that little bear feeling? Tell me if you have some idea.
You've distorted the said.
> plus different kinds of expressions based on culture
There is no data that emotions in other nations are expressed principally differently. Situations for concrete emotions may differ by a culture.
> It's also considered taboo to look into people's eyes, so I don't really get the correct practice
If you have the significant lack of the experience, then the skills may be affected. With closer people there should be informal communications and no such limitations, what should reduce this factor.
> I can't really imagine not using a person's entire body language or their entire facial expression at least to discern what they're feeling.
think about this as your hiden super power
> Everybody looks like my avatar, basically. What is that little bear feeling? Tell me if you have some idea.
To make everybody look like your avatar may need the substances which I have no in first aid kit, unfortunately. So the result can't be representative. Though, my state and typology skills allow to understand that you have F type. And that your bad test results can be explained by other race of examples.
wbr
You have to consider his display of anti-"Ti" is because he's bad at it* + SLE is the most Ego-defensive type by miles. So his 'throw shit spaghetti-to-a-wall' style is nothing more than an attempt to shut up people trying to get psychologically close (classic SLE thing, written all over + directly from inaLim an SLE's mouth in the Fi PoLR thread). As for stuff about "intent", in order to properly navigate the world for some things you need to know "intent".
Regardless, if I'm wrong, no worries. My intent was not to battletype him, but to be constructive. I will keep him as a possible "IEE" in mind to better define the model IEE for me, but like I said he definitely did not fit my mold - so he's either not IEE, or my model is wrong.
* Not all "T" types are > "F" types at "logic". Not all T types have good/above-average "IQ". Etc.
I worded that bit very poorly. I apologize. What I was referring to is SLE'S characteristic trait of in general the feeling of psychological closeness (in other words, keeping people at arm's length). If you disagree you admitted to this in that thread, I'll delete reference to you in the aforementioned post.
New Addition: (1) Sbbds (IEE-Fi)
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^'NUFF SAID...
ILE-Ti: Myst, Transkar, LuchoisLurking, JWC3, MadCity, Troll NR 007, Falsehope
ILE-Ne: Geneiouws, Lagerdemon, Cubazoan, Nickelslick, Hitta, dangerbird89
ESE-Fe: Chipsnunderwear, Suz, Inumbra, Subteigh, Kalinoche, FlutteringShyx, Mrrrmaid, Fardraft
ESE-Si: Mu4, Wacey, Xerx, Esaman, KrigtheViking, Hacim, Little Timmy,
LII-Ti: N0ki/Zap, Muddy, Reactance, User Name, Bertrand, Etar
LII-Ne: Kimuchi/kimu, Zero, Vers, Vesstheastralsilky
SEI-Si: johannesbloem, chriscorey, the whole English, lelelewomanwomanwoman, Megatrop, Emily
SEI-Fe: BnD, crazedrat, dinky, Neokortex, Pallas Athena, Coeruleum, gammavsbeta
SLE-Se: herzy, mercutio/satan, ananke, idontgiveaf
SLE-Ti: agee, kill4me
LSI-Se: Spider, Missbabydoll, Pole, Aramas, Karatos, Northstar
LSI-Ti: Rocky, Hamouchou
IEI-Fe: Allie, Pink, SisofNight, Cassandra, Fay, Summer Princess, Xiavay
IEI-Ni: Starfall/Fox, Glam, Elina, Strrrng, Velvet, Penny Dreadful, Beamerboy
EIE-Fe: Cuivienen, Alonzo
EIE-Ni: Gilly, Darya, Bain, Sarinana
SEE-Se: Woofwoofl, Handjob, Number9Large
SEE-Fi: Lucas, Aquagraph, Chae, Vogue Paris, Totalize, Schwiftyrickity, Niko
LIE-Ni: Ineffable, Moonraker, Avebury
LIE-Te: Ashton, FDG, Expat, Invisiblehim, Narc, Anglas
ESI-Se: DiscoJoe, EJArendee, Jet City Woman, MisterNi, Scarletluxx, Amber/Rosewood, Strangeling, Oppai Anschluss
ESI-Fi: Lungs, Golden, Ouronis, Radio, Suedehead, Galen, Kore/Persephone, Delilah, the Locust, Saiorse, Hag
ILI-Ni: Scapegrace, Korpsey, Krieger, Cpig, InvisibleJim, Floozy
ILI-Te: Marie, Mensupermateriam, Aestrivex, Crispy, Soupman
SLI-Si: Words, Stray, Scarper, LuminousLynx, Lord Pixel
SLI-Te: kim, daft punk, directorabbie, pookie, Jessica, may, supremacist, plasmatorpedo1043, Araz, Khcs
LSE-Te: Absurd, JimBean, QueenTiger
LSE-Si: William, JackOliverAaron/Echidna1000, BurningIce, Timmy, Smilingeyes, Laurie’s Crusader, Viktor, Kingslayer
IEE-Ne: Elizathomason, UDP, Sapphire, Syrup De Gem, Pinoline, Azbestos, Nanashi, VenusRose
IEE-Fi: Finale/Finaplex, Airman/airborne, Adam Strange, Prince Andrei, Niffer, Eos, Sbbds
EII-Ne: Aylen, Epheme, Wasp, Tpaduan, User123
EII-Fi: maritsa/beautiful sky, mikemex, IBTL, contra, sol, suintal/silke, tela/arachne, Olimpia, thehotelambush, Yaaroslav, Safsom2
@Kill4Me
At least you are consistent. Sbbds = Niffer, and you typed both IEE.
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