The problem with that grouping is not all the people who like those things would even necessarily consider them "magic and esotericism." I mean tantra is a traditional part of Buddhism. Someone who practices that isn't necessarily going to identify it as being the same kind of thing as Gurdjieff or even Gnosticism. I can't think of a better title for the thread though so we might as well just leave it. It saves the astrology threads from various other alternative spirituality and supernatural stuff at least.